Mini 30
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Unfortunately, I don't have any good advice.
Unfortunately, I don't have any good advice.
You'd be better off building an F Class AK47. It is what it is.
I have an ak, I just want to see what I can do with the mini 30.
Sleeving and tensioning the barrel is the only thing that could probably help and the design makes that nearly impossible. You could possibly tension the front section of the barrel which could possibly stabilize it. The design pretty much makes the stock and everything else affect the barrel. Thermal differences etc. Load a mag and starting from a cold barrel fire a round every 30 seconds with the exact same point of aim and see how much it vertically strings and where it stabilizes. Zeroing a gun with a warm barrel and then getting upset when the groups suck starting from a cold barrel.
The few folks I know that have added the accu-strut have been happy with the results….the accu-strut solved the accuracy issue with the XGI rifle but WBR Sr was NOT having any "f7$%*" non-ruger manufactured accessories added to his guns to solve engineering issues so he killed the XGI instead….
Bad Barlow
Blackhawk
The strut helped my mini 30 ,but its still not a tack driver...
I don't like to Ruger guns (on the Ruger forum no less) but the 'mini' series carbines simply aren't meant for precision shooting. You can try whatever you feel might help but the results are probably going to disappoint.
I owned a Mini-14 forty years ago because it was the only game in town for a semi-auto coyote rifle. Very disappointing is a generous appraisal. I sold 2-3 while I was in the gunshop business with similar less than favorable accuracy issues although one buyer was quite proud of his 3-4MOA Mini since he was such a poor marksman that sending bullets in a random pattern actually improved his chances of hitting.
Ruger guns (on the Ruger forum no less) but the 'mini' series carbines simply aren't meant for precision shooting. You can try whatever you feel might help but the results are probably going to disappoint.I owned a Mini-14 forty years ago because it was the only game in town for a semi-auto coyote rifle. Very disappointing is a generous appraisal. I sold 2-3 while I was in the gunshop business with similar less than favorable accuracy issues although one buyer was quite proud of his 3-4MOA Mini since he was such a poor marksman that sending bullets in a random pattern actually improved his chances of hitting.
The consensus seems to be that the Accu Strut makes little, if any, difference regarding 580 series and above Minis.
Crap!!! Now I can't get the idea of a F Class AK out of my head!!!
bigbillyboy
Buckeye
This . If you want a target rifle the mini is not for youI don't like to
I owned a Mini-14 forty years ago because it was the only game in town for a semi-auto coyote rifle. Very disappointing is a generous appraisal. I sold 2-3 while I was in the gunshop business with similar less than favorable accuracy issues although one buyer was quite proud of his 3-4MOA Mini since he was such a poor marksman that sending bullets in a random pattern actually improved his chances of hitting.
Hylander
Single-Sixer
Well,
I will put in my real world 2 cent's, having owned probably a dozen and worked on many more.
Mini's are for the most part are not that accurate out of the box, especially the pre 580 series.
Older ones for the most part are 3-4 MOA. post 580's are around 2.5 MOA
This is with decent ammo.
On pre 580 series the Accustrut cuts groups by about 40% or so and usually eliminates flyers, if you take the time to tune it and not just bolt it on.
Post 580 series the Accustrut cuts groups by about 20% and usually eliminate flyers, if you tune it.
This is an average not a definitive.
Other things come into play as well, here is what I do to all mine before adding an Accustrut:
Bedding, either glass or shim bedding.
Polish trigger and add lighter trigger spring
Smaller gas bushing and properly space and torque gas block
Recoil buffers
Remove op rod hump
These mods are cheap and easy about $60
If the rifle still needs help I add an Accustrut, well I usually add it anyways, cause it just looks cool
Anyways, here is Eleanor and Sasha, this mornings range session.
This is the Norm, Sasha shoots under 1.5 MOA easily and Eleanor under 1 MOA easily.
Eleanor is a pre 580, Sasha is a 582 series.
I will put in my real world 2 cent's, having owned probably a dozen and worked on many more.
Mini's are for the most part are not that accurate out of the box, especially the pre 580 series.
Older ones for the most part are 3-4 MOA. post 580's are around 2.5 MOA
This is with decent ammo.
On pre 580 series the Accustrut cuts groups by about 40% or so and usually eliminates flyers, if you take the time to tune it and not just bolt it on.
Post 580 series the Accustrut cuts groups by about 20% and usually eliminate flyers, if you tune it.
This is an average not a definitive.
Other things come into play as well, here is what I do to all mine before adding an Accustrut:
Bedding, either glass or shim bedding.
Polish trigger and add lighter trigger spring
Smaller gas bushing and properly space and torque gas block
Recoil buffers
Remove op rod hump
These mods are cheap and easy about $60
If the rifle still needs help I add an Accustrut, well I usually add it anyways, cause it just looks cool
Anyways, here is Eleanor and Sasha, this mornings range session.
This is the Norm, Sasha shoots under 1.5 MOA easily and Eleanor under 1 MOA easily.
Eleanor is a pre 580, Sasha is a 582 series.
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How do you "tune" an accu-strut?
Hylander
Single-Sixer
Where the clamps are positioned and the torque value of the clamp screws.
abosely
Bearcat
Hate to ask such a pedestrian question, but what is the operating rod hump?
Cheers, Allen
Hylander
Single-Sixer
This is the hump.
I file this hump off. I have no idea why ruger added this.
With the hump removed and a buffer added, the rifle cycles smoother and helps with accuracy.
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abosely
Bearcat
Interesting, I recently got a SS 5804 Mini 30 that I'm building a custom rile on and it doesn't have the hump on it.
Everything smoothed & lightly polished, Krieger cut rifling 18" barrel, all the ASI upgrades, custom English Walnut stock and new cartridge I came up with, 30-220 Russian, have chambers and reamers designed for 6-220 Russian and 6.5-220 Russian versions also.
Manson is making the custom 30-220 R reamer. Easy case forming, no cutting or fire forming required. Will feed through Ruger Mini 30 Mags and can have 6mm, 6.5mm & .30 cal cartridge only need rebarreled and gas block.
Powder capacity is about 2-3gr less depending on specfic than 6.5 Grendel, 6mm ARC, 6.5 ARC, 6mm PPC or 7.62x39 etc.
Chamber cut to optimize accuracy and feed through Ruger Mini 30 mags compared to 7.62x39.
Cartridges are all noncommercial happy to share info, data (as develops) if anyone is interested.
Cheers, Allen
Everything smoothed & lightly polished, Krieger cut rifling 18" barrel, all the ASI upgrades, custom English Walnut stock and new cartridge I came up with, 30-220 Russian, have chambers and reamers designed for 6-220 Russian and 6.5-220 Russian versions also.
Manson is making the custom 30-220 R reamer. Easy case forming, no cutting or fire forming required. Will feed through Ruger Mini 30 Mags and can have 6mm, 6.5mm & .30 cal cartridge only need rebarreled and gas block.
Powder capacity is about 2-3gr less depending on specfic than 6.5 Grendel, 6mm ARC, 6.5 ARC, 6mm PPC or 7.62x39 etc.
Chamber cut to optimize accuracy and feed through Ruger Mini 30 mags compared to 7.62x39.
Cartridges are all noncommercial happy to share info, data (as develops) if anyone is interested.
Cheers, Allen
dove290119
Bearcat
I have a 195 series Mini 14 and the accustrut helped some. Not sure about the newer ones through.
