Awhile ago I started a thread (which I can't find now) about dietary supplements. I hear the ads endlessly on the radio about "Balance of Nature" and thought of giving that a try, but between the cost and some negatives that I read about that product I decided to try something that appeared to be similar but less costly. Like "Balance of Nature", this product, named "Substance" is supposedly capsules of the essence of fresh vegetables and fruits. It cost about $45 a month and I used it for two months. For me, the results were..... nothing. I felt no changes at all. No increased energy or feeling of well being. But no negative effects either. Maybe its just me, or maybe those who said that these kinds of supplements are just useless that end up washing out in your urine were totally right.
Dietary Supplements
- Thread starter vito
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I trust my physician(s).
I asked him if here was a need now for me to take vitamins I started during chemo in late 2020 to mid 2021.
He asked me to remember that those are produced by for profit corporations.
I had started taking C and Zinc on my own, he had never recommended it.
He says my blood ( and other ) tests he performed didn’t indicate a need. Says if your urine is bright in color you’re just a filter to turn a tablet into a liquid.
I asked him if here was a need now for me to take vitamins I started during chemo in late 2020 to mid 2021.
He asked me to remember that those are produced by for profit corporations.
I had started taking C and Zinc on my own, he had never recommended it.
He says my blood ( and other ) tests he performed didn’t indicate a need. Says if your urine is bright in color you’re just a filter to turn a tablet into a liquid.
I think for the most part they're all BS.
If you have a decent diet and have a normal activity level not much if any actual benefit.
On the other hand the "placebo" effect might be worth it.
As part of my triathlon training I'm sort of a lab rat for some U of M exercise physiology grad and doctoral students. For myself
various beet extracts have a small measurable positive effect in cardio output, pretty much as expected.
I drank a boatload of black cherry juice for 6 weeks and bloodwork showed absolutely nothing changed. It and things like it
are promoted as reducing overall "inflammation" levels.
The various omega oils have never had a measurable effect on my lipid levels, but those are about current textbook perfect
anyway. Other random crap...300mg of caffeine did basically nothing on a 30 minute max effort stationary bike test.
Tylenol did nothing on the same type of test as far as total power produced before exhaustion.
If you have a decent diet and have a normal activity level not much if any actual benefit.
On the other hand the "placebo" effect might be worth it.
As part of my triathlon training I'm sort of a lab rat for some U of M exercise physiology grad and doctoral students. For myself
various beet extracts have a small measurable positive effect in cardio output, pretty much as expected.
I drank a boatload of black cherry juice for 6 weeks and bloodwork showed absolutely nothing changed. It and things like it
are promoted as reducing overall "inflammation" levels.
The various omega oils have never had a measurable effect on my lipid levels, but those are about current textbook perfect
anyway. Other random crap...300mg of caffeine did basically nothing on a 30 minute max effort stationary bike test.
Tylenol did nothing on the same type of test as far as total power produced before exhaustion.
We used to have snake oil salesmen in the 1800's................
These products are made and sold by their progeny.......
If you want to live a long healthy life, eat pizza and cheeseburgers, (and ice cream in moderation). Trust me on this!!
IMHO as always,
J.
These products are made and sold by their progeny.......
If you want to live a long healthy life, eat pizza and cheeseburgers, (and ice cream in moderation). Trust me on this!!
IMHO as always,
J.
“He asked me to remember that those are produced by for profit corporations.”
Unlike prescription drugs?
Unlike prescription drugs?
Dietary Supplements are the 'snake oil' of this century. Some work and some are merely money sinks.
Jimbo357mag
Hawkeye
Super Beets......... Yeah right. 
Actually some of the beet products will provide cardio benefits in vasodilation and blood flow.Super Beets......... Yeah right.
Some people also show small reduction in blood pressure which would be expected because of the above.
For me it takes about a week of "loading" to get measurable gains and a lot of people report GI issues with
beets.
fiasconva
Blackhawk
Dietary supplements can be dangerous if not taken correctly. My step dad was taking more than the recommended amounts as a health nut. He thought, for example, if 4mg was good then 8mg was even better. He ended up in the hospital with renal failure because of it. Read the directions!
I tried two bottles of Mona Vie once and the results I got from that could be obtained by a Snicker Dar for a whole lot less cost. A cousin was selling MV and I only tried it to help her out and my Snicker Bar comparison stopped the trial run! 
