Dewey Rod ~ Yes or No ?

[schooner]

I'm confused on what cleaning bore rods to buy
Just got my new 10/22 Takedown and haven't shot it YET, due to the fact
I haven't bought the right cleaning rod to buy ! ! !

I just received this email from: J Dewey Rod people stating the following:

" Please note: .22 Rimfire and CZ Shooters - We recommend using .20 caliber cleaning rods, as the .22 caliber rods have been found to be too tight to fit those close diameters. When ordering a .20 caliber rod for use with .22 caliber jags, mops, brushes, etc, you will need to order the 17A adapter "

Also note: Please use pistol sized brushes with small diameter rods - it puts less stress on the cleaning rod "

Do any you great guys had a problem using the .22cal. cleaning rods ?
Have you used the Dewey Rods ?
And what do you think of them ?

I got a question(s) about the Dewey Rod.

From what I gather you are to put a cleaning plastic cable thru the backend of the barrel, just like the Dewey Rod yes/no ?
That makes sense to me ~ but then again what does this newie guy know about cleaning his FIRS RIFLE !

FINALLY THE QUESTION: If I buy the Dewey cleaning rod for my 10/22 I should enter it thru the backend of the barrel, like normal. Now what do I do coming out ? Does the handle swival coming out ?

Do you guys agree that the Dewey Cleaning Rod is one of the BEST RODS TO BUY ?

Just how does using the Dewey Cleaning Rod work
Thanks 4 putting up with this new owner of the Ruger 10/22 Takedown.

 

[cowboy1]

I'm confused on what cleaning bore rods to buy
Just got my new 10/22 Takedown and haven't shot it YET, due to the fact
I haven't bought the right cleaning rod to buy ! ! !

I just received this email from: J Dewey Rod people stating the following:

" Please note: .22 Rimfire and CZ Shooters - We recommend using .20 caliber cleaning rods, as the .22 caliber rods have been found to be too tight to fit those close diameters. When ordering a .20 caliber rod for use with .22 caliber jags, mops, brushes, etc, you will need to order the 17A adapter "

Also note: Please use pistol sized brushes with small diameter rods - it puts less stress on the cleaning rod "

Do any you great guys had a problem using the .22cal. cleaning rods ?
Have you used the Dewey Rods ?
And what do you think of them ?

I got a question(s) about the Dewey Rod.

From what I gather you are to put a cleaning plastic cable thru the backend of the barrel, just like the Dewey Rod yes/no ?
That makes sense to me ~ but then again what does this newie guy know about cleaning his FIRS RIFLE !

FINALLY THE QUESTION: If I buy the Dewey cleaning rod for my 10/22 I should enter it thru the backend of the barrel, like normal. Now what do I do coming out ? Does the handle swival coming out ?

Do you guys agree that the Dewey Cleaning Rod is one of the BEST RODS TO BUY ?

Just how does using the Dewey Cleaning Rod work
Thanks 4 putting up with this new owner of the Ruger 10/22 Takedown.

Just buy a Bore Snake and ignore all the rest of the crap. Been using the Snake for years and have had NO adverse effects. MHO.
CB1

 

[Kermit814]

Just buy a Bore Snake and ignore all the rest of the crap. Been using the Snake for years and have had NO adverse effects. MHO.
CB1

+1

 

[m657]

There is a TON of various personal interpretation of 'the RIGHT way to do such and such'....

I've used a bore snake with no down side I can measure.

I've used various cleaning rods with a little brass jig that protects the muzzle crown, so they say, and swabbed from the muzzle end.
The barrels of 22LR rifles don't seem to need all that much cleaning IMHO.

The CHAMBER and extractor area is where the crapola needs attention most often.

Dewey rods are a premium brand, and I do prefer them in other calibers. I've never used a 22 Dewey rod so can't address that part of the inquiry.

10/22 take downs are a LOT of practical fun. Welcome to Shangri-La.

 

[Pat-inCO]

Unless you go nutz . . . . you will only clean the bore once per year, if that
often. Presuming you have the sense to . . . NOT . . . use a steel cleaning
rod, AND use brass or aluminum jags, it will make no difference.

 

[rugerjunkie]

I cant remember the brand of rod i have but its a carbon fiber rod and the bearings are smooth! Dont worry about needing a 20 cal rod...22 cal will be fine. Sounds liem they are just trying to sell something you dont need. Just buy one long enough to do any length barrel you have. Too long is ok...too short is way bad! Lol +100 on bore snakes! I have one for every caliber i own. For the rimfires , they will do 99% of what you need and then a good cleaning every blue moon or when you notice accuracy falling way off.

 

[FiremanBob]

Schooner: good questions, and good on you for being brave enough to ask. Following is my opinion, as well-informed as I can make it.

I have three issues with the Boresnake: 1) The Boresnake has been tested by experts and found to be not very good at removing fouling from the rifling grooves. 2) I find that many people misuse it by pulling the cord at an angle that drags it across the muzzle crown. Since the Boresnake picks up gritty crud in the barrel, this means they are dragging that abrasive, dirt-encrusted cloth over the edge of the bore, which can quickly damage your crown - goodbye accuracy. 3) Once you pull it through, it's dirty. Do you want to re-introduce that dirt into your bore? It should be thoroughly cleaned after each trip through the barrel, which is impractical in the field. I keep a clean Boresnake in my range bag in case anyone on the firing line is in desperate need. Use once, then launder.

The best way to clean is from the breech with a good, polished steel or carbon-fiber rod and brush, patches on a pierce or Parker-Hale jag, or VFG pellets. You have the advantage of a TD model which makes it easy to do it right. You push the patch through and then drop the dirty patch off before pulling the rod back through.

For a fixed-barrel 10/22 that does not have a cleaning hole drilled in the receiver, it is ok to use a rod from the muzzle provided you use a good muzzle guard like the Dewey or Possum Hollow to protect the crown.

It is important when pushing the cleaning rod that you don't push so hard that it bends in the bore. That's one reason I like the carbon-fiber rods. It is also important that you keep the rod centered in the bore and don't scrape it on the edge at either end.

The most comprehensive resource for knowledge about cleaning rimfire barrels is here: http://www.rrdvegas.com/rimfire-cleaning.html

The most critical part to clean is the chamber, because of a hardened carbon ring that forms just ahead of the case. This ring can cause the bullet to seat improperly which causes several kinds of malfunctions. I recommend the using the Gunsmither Brushn'Mop (gunsmithertools.com) regularly.

I am working on a blog article and videos about cleaning 10/22s, which I expect to publish sometime in February.

 

[Kevin]

FiremanBob, you make a valid point about the bore snakes. I don't use one, In fact the past couple years, I don't clean my rimfire guns as much as I used to, just sort of wipe off the loose stuff inside the chamber and fingerprints from outside and call it good. I have a Ruger Mark II and I used to clean that thing religiously, I don't as much now and I don't think it makes a difference. It still shoots and is still accurate. Still clean on the outside and clean enough everywhere else...

 

[Rumrunner]

I use bore snakes on all my rifles and pistols. I have a Dewey rod I use once in a while on my Les Baer rifle but mostly use a bore snake on it as well. For some center fires and big bore handguns you may occasionally need a rod but for rimfires a bore snake is all you really need. Maybe a high end target rimfire you might use a brush.
If you use a rod in a Vplquartsen Custom (at least 17HMR) it will void your warranty. He ships his rifles with a bore snake

 

[Rocdoc]

I find that many people misuse it (Bore Snake) by pulling the cord at an angle that drags it across the muzzle crown. Since the Boresnake picks up gritty crud in the barrel, this means they are dragging that abrasive, dirt-encrusted cloth over the edge of the bore, which can quickly damage your crown - goodbye accuracy.

Remember your class in Physics? No amount of dirt/crud, brass/aluminum rods, will damage steel barrels. Softer materials cannot scratch harder materials.

 

[FiremanBob]

You are welcome to believe that. Do what you think works for you. I believe in freedom. I'm not telling anyone what to do, just explaining why I do it my way.

I shoot my rifles a lot, and clean them often to maintain the best possible accuracy. I want to clean them using tools and methods and will do the best job with zero damage. In my opinion, boresnakes do an inferior job of cleaning. Since part of the fouling in a rimfire is ground silica from the primer compound, I'm not willing to drag dirty cleaning tools through my barrels.

Another reason I prefer patches, brushes and VFG pellets is that when I'm done I can dispose of them. I don't have to carry a solvent-soaked, dirty Boresnake home in my range bag.

 

[Ethang]

I've used Dewey rods for years in all of my centerfires. Great rods, well worth the money. The only time I ever clean the bore of my 10/22 was when I was testing for the most accurate rounds.

Come to think of it, I can't remember the last time I did clean any of my 22's....

 

[steelshooterco]

Dewey rods work well, you hsould have no problem with the 22 cal rod in a 10/22.

With a takedown, you can remove the barrel and clean from the breach. Boretech also makes a good rod.

Pierce or wrap type jags work well, for general cleaning prefer the pierce type.

Both Sinclair International and Brownells carry both brands, cotton patches and cleaning jags and brushes.

You can do an online chat with Brownells folks

 

[SGW Gunsmith]

There's absolutely NOTHING good about a bore-snake. The cloth involved with these collect glass particles from the primer mix along with all sorts of other fouling that will do harm to a .22 rimfire bore over time as that same crap gets pulled through the bore over and over again. I see where some recommend that an access hole be drilled into the rear end of a 10/22 receiver to accept a cleaning rod. WHY? First off, .22 rimfire, land to groove height only amounts to, 0.002 to 0.0025 of an inch. Barrel steel is somewhat mild and doesn't take kindly to any abrasive measures introduced by accident or on purpose. I use Dewey cleaning rods, but ONLY on centerfire rifle and pistol bores, NEVER on .22 rimfire bores, especially those that I personally own. Below is the set-up I use on my .22 rimfire pistols and rifles, exclusively.



This is a "pull through system" that doesn't involve ANYTHING that could possibly, ever, harm a .22 rimfire bore. It works terrifically on the 10/22 rifles, and ALL other .22 rimfire firearms, that I receive into my shop for cleaning or repair. No rear access hole is required. I am currently compiling a "cleaning system kit" for use with ALL .22 rimfire caliber firearms. This kit will not hurt a .22 rimfire bore in the least and will be very reasonable. Soon to be seen at http://www.saronagunworks.com

 

[6gun]

I have a nice Dewey rod I use on my revolvers I don't really recommend them for new gun owners just starting out because of price, your local dealer should cleaning kits to fit a .22 rifle it will come with rods, brushes, patches, etc.... everything you need to clean your rifle for around twenty bucks it will do the job well and a good place to start for a newbie no need to start out with fancy expensive stuff, plenty of time for that in the future once you really get into guns.

 

[Jwp721]

Just look at any of the websites that sell cleaning equipment and you will see an entire buffet line of choices. Which means to me there isn't one perfect product that is head and shoulders above the rest.

The key in my opinion is to only clean your firearm when it truly needs cleaning and use a little bit of common sense when doing it. I would also guess that most of these stories of ruined barrels was due to over cleaning and not improper equipment. Or over cleaning with improper equipment. lol

 

[steelshooterco]

Here is some information on cleaning 22 rimfire barrels from a leading barrel manufacturer.

They sell and talk about 10/22's

http://www.riflebarrels.com/support/rimfire_maintenance.htm