Data Centers in rural areas.

[Ale-8(1)]

Big money talks. :rolleyes:

 

[19drivermaker46]

Why are we taking the hit (IE: higher electric prices, our taxes go up while they get breaks, etc) for the largest most lucrative businesses ever to put their monstrosities.
Seems like we are being very poorly represented.

Do you think it might be because those who DO "REPRESENT" might be seeing some good size $$$ signs being waved in front of their noses for votes to put it through? The companies and people behind these have far more experience, tricks. and lies to get them approved nationwide than those who are in a political position of a County to say "NAY, NOT GONNA HAPPEN". We're going through this crap right now in a couple of locations a little south of Atlanta. Homeowners and residents will be the ones who get screwed and have to suck it up.

 

[kmoore]

As far as government making deals when someone or some company comes into an area to build. That's been a long time standard. Cities and counties give sweet deals to companies by knowing in the long term, they will provide jobs and services. Each of those increases the tax base.
In Idaho outside of Boise is a data center being built. The area could handle cattle, not crop farming. Its sq. miles of land being developed. Now it has a few thousand workers building it, when opened about 100 people working there. It is 100% renewable energy; they will build a solar farm. Water use will restore 100% of the water it consumes. It's going to have air cooling to minimize water consumption. I don't have any problems with it being there doing its job. At some point it will be paying tax's to county and state.

 

[Jeepnik]

Just so you all know, nothing that consumes electricity and gives off heat is non polluting.

Whether you use traditional cooling towers (water) of air cooling (much larger power consumption), both will result in a considerable amount of "heat pollution". This will have an effect on the local environment.

 

[Dan in MI]

There’s a few things being fought nearby of large scale development. The idea hit me that there is a plan afoot for all of these things. Let’s say you need 10 items checked for approval. Early on in the fight the locals get together and fight and it all gets tabled. Six to eight months later they try again. This time checkbox 4 gets through. The cycle repeats. Now boxes 2 and 9 sneak through. This repeats for a few years until enough boxes are checked that it can’t be stopped.

 

[peachhead]

This is a big deal in my country right now.
Honestly I think most people who say they are against it don't even understand why they are.
I don't know, I have not made up my mind. I think if it is done correctly then it will benefit the county but it is difficult to get objective information about it.
In the meantime all the NO people in my county are pitching a fit, even though we don't even have a proposal for one anymore.

 

[The Norseman]

I’ve been following this AI/Data surveillance
center’s construction for a year now.

The public is very slowly becoming aware of
what’s happening. City Hall meeting are
becoming more and more hostile.

Question for you, would you hand over as
much money as you could to the World’s
wealthiest predatory high tech SPY
corporations to come into your house, over
time take all from you and destroy it?

AI/Data Spy corporations are grifters and
con artists just looking to take advantage of
tax incentives, TIFs, & Grants up to 50 years
off hard working Citizens that don’t get any
of this.

Saying this is economic development is
laughable. AI/Data Centers need a 5 year
moratorium, continue erosion of the U.S.
Const. 4th Amend., and do not require
taxpayer dollars.

 

[gunzo]

Big news item in my area lately. Mother daughter family farm, more than one or 2 generation, in Mason Co. were offered 30 mil, as I recall. They said no. Some cheered, some were applaud. But AI company threw another huge offer at another farm & they accepted.
Word is the zoning has been approved & infrastructure is being prepared. Maysville, an historic Ohio river town with some of Ky's. earliest history has met the future.

In the 1780's an area that Simon Kenton explored & claimed as his own, now gonna have a huge AI data center. Talk about ,,, progress?

 

[19drivermaker46]

As far as government making deals when someone or some company comes into an area to build. That's been a long time standard. Cities and counties give sweet deals to companies by knowing in the long term, they will provide jobs and services. Each of those increases the tax base.
In Idaho outside of Boise is a data center being built. The area could handle cattle, not crop farming. Its sq. miles of land being developed. Now it has a few thousand workers building it, when opened about 100 people working there. It is 100% renewable energy; they will build a solar farm. Water use will restore 100% of the water it consumes. It's going to have air cooling to minimize water consumption. I don't have any problems with it being there doing its job. At some point it will be paying tax's to county and state.

You're in Idaho and I'm in Georgia. Everything you posted is straight out of the Data Center playbook. How do I know? Because what you said is exactly verbatim what the Data Centers have spewed here to all the residents. They have enough experience and minds behind it to know what works to keep building them and what doesn't based on the objections from residents. It's like McDonalds. Same food, same system, same buildings, same message. It works. Data Centers are doing the same thing. Don't drink their Kool Aid.
https://www.google.com/search?q=neg...LgH9AzCBwgwLjIuMTEuM8gHWYAIAA&sclient=gws-wiz

 

[GunnyGene]

You're in Idaho and I'm in Georgia. Everything you posted is straight out of the Data Center playbook. How do I know? Because what you said is exactly verbatim what the Data Centers have spewed here to all the residents. They have enough experience and minds behind it to know what works to keep building them and what doesn't based on the objections from residents. It's like McDonalds. Same food, same system, same buildings, same message. It works. Data Centers are doing the same thing. Don't drink their Kool Aid.
https://www.google.com/search?q=negatives+of+data+centers&sca_esv=533a6b6c25e54f13&sxsrf=ANbL-n6n0UFE4BIu7iKT3qwSNfSzoJBJ3Q:1774626971694&source=hp&ei=m6jGaY3zJ9LBp84PpYz02AQ&iflsig=AFdpzrgAAAAAaca2q9qTsct1zNcz2QbxECd15Y_w7CL_&oq=negatives+of+dat&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6IhBuZWdhdGl2ZXMgb2YgZGF0KgIIADIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIGEAAYFhgeMgYQABgWGB4yBhAAGBYYHjIGEAAYFhgeMgYQABgWGB4yBhAAGBYYHjIGEAAYFhgeSIs9UABYlSBwAHgAkAEAmAF-oAHzC6oBBDEwLja4AQHIAQD4AQGYAhCgAvQMwgIKECMYgAQYJxiKBcICCxAAGIAEGLEDGIMBwgIIEAAYgAQYsQPCAggQLhiABBixA8ICCxAuGIAEGLEDGIMBwgIOEC4YgAQYsQMYgwEYigXCAg4QABiABBixAxiDARiKBcICBBAjGCfCAhMQLhiABBjHARgnGIoFGI4FGK8BwgIOEC4YgAQYsQMY0QMYxwHCAgsQLhiABBjHARivAcICBBAAGAPCAgsQABiABBiGAxiKBZgDAJIHBDYuMTCgB7dwsgcENi4xMLgH9AzCBwgwLjIuMTEuM8gHWYAIAA&sclient=gws-wiz

Excellent link! (y):)