Coyote Pelts

[Jeepnik]

Government brilliance. Coyotes started showing up in the housing are of George AFB. The Air Force poisoned them drastically reducing the coyote population. So with no predators the jack rabbit population exploded. We sucked a few into Phantom intakes. The Air Force in its brilliance decided the rabbits were there because there was so much brush between the taxiways and runways. So they cut down the brush. Then as always happen in the High Desert, the wind blew. The sand got into everything, including Phantom intakes. It drifted so high at times we couldn't open the stall doors for our crash trucks. So the Air force in its brilliance parked the crash trucks outside. We ended up with nicely sandblasted trucks, including the windows. The articulated joints for the trucks became clogged with sand and quit moving and of course we had sand drifted in the cabs.

In the end, they let the brush grow, had depredation hunts for the rabbits (they never did leave), and when the coyote population finally came back the rabbits population went back down.

The base is now a freight airport so there are no homes (yet). When they do finally start building homes for people that will complain about the airport noise there will be coyotes in the housing area. I'm pretty sure the county of San Bernadino will repeat the same cycle.

 

[contender]

Ya gotta love it when people upset the balance of nature in a big way.

 

[MaxMan]

No pelts here
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/tech...S&cvid=fad5efc6651a4366b8c2416608d0ad10&ei=15

 

[Bear Paw Jack]

Interesting thread. I bought my first fur hat in 81 or 82. It was coyote, and had the face in the front and the tail in the back. At the time I didn't think much about the quilted lining, just seemed like a good idea. WRONG! Wear that sucker for a while and it was like sticking your head in a blast furnace. In Anchorage it gets cold but not cold enough for a quilted lining. When I worked up in Barrow it could get fairly cool. One winter I was up there and it was -40 pretty regularly. I'm partial to beaver hats myself, but I'm good with a satin lining. Provided you were dressed properly it worked pretty well. I've had several, you learn from experience. First they have to fit your head right. Next I wanted mine to come down further in the back. Then I wanted it cut further forward. As with every cold climate there's things that work better than others. I like Carhart. When I was preparing to drive up to Alaska all I could find was the red lined carharts. They maybe fine for the lower 48, but in cold climates the black lined are much more preferable. Dress for the weather they say. Gloves aren't all that effective, though I liked wool type gloves as liners then heavy leather mittens with a good lining. That will keep you fairly warm. I would use parachute cord tied to the top of the mitts on the bottom, then run them through the coat sleeves, so if you needed to use your fingers you just fling your hands and they come off but stay with you. When you're done just slide your hands back in. I liked wearing a vest or something along that line under the Carhart coveralls. Different people like different things, some like separate coveralls like farmers wear and a heavy coat, I prefer the one piece suit. Polypropylene face masks help a lot too.
I used Cabela's -100 boots. Standing on ice for a while and the Sorels are cold. Of course the beaver hats.
People even have preferences about that. With beaver the darker the color the more expensive. Though some prefer seal skin. I never tried those.
The big thing was you don't want any exposed skin. Doesn't take long to freeze.
What many folks don't realize is as cold as it can get at the top of the world, the interior can get colder. Most folks don't even shut off their engines when they go in to grocery shop.
Mostly I've seen otter, seal, lynx, beaver, and others used for coats, but normally it's only white people that are showing off. Native ladies use what they call Kuspuks which is a bright colored fabric, many with some fur under.
Up here about the only thing coyote is used for as Contender mentioned, is the ruff on a parka. People use an oversized parka, and then tighten them down so you're looking through like a hole and of course you are breathing and the fur will keep the cold out but you don't want it to ice up.
Sorry, probably covered more than necessary.

 

[protoolman]

Probably 10 years ago I was in a big fur buyers store in Butte or Anaconda my. He might still be there. He had pelt from everything all ready to sell. Fox,coyote, Beaver, rabbit you name it. And he had coat patterns and mitten patterns, muffs etc. Everything had a price and he had local seamstresses to do the work. All you had to say was I want a 54 XXL woman's coat with wide lapels for my mother in law with red satin lining sewed out of black and white rabbit skins and they would custom make it. Anything you wanted. I wonder if he's still there?

 

[protoolman]

Western Montana fur center in Anaconda. Bobcat vest with fox trim. I think this is the guy I posted about previously.

 

[Hankus]

The first rule of our hunt club;
If you see a coyote AND a big buck the coyote gets the first bullet. Those East GA coyotes are pretty scraggly even during the winter though. My FIL mounted one he shot back when he first retired there in 1990, and one bobcat, but the rest end up on the bone pile.

 

[Hankus]

Back in the mid to late 1970s, the govenment had a contract for new parkas. They wanted wolf hair for the ruffs (collars) but the ecofreaks raised so much hell that they settled for prime coyote hides. I've head some say they sold for as high as $200+ a skin but the bets I ever did was $150 for a few really prime skins. I did really good during the winter of 77/78. I think 1979 might been another good year but I got a job transfer from Northern Nevada to Southern Arizona and the coyotes down here are pretty sad. I've shot all of two since I moved, one to check condition and the second for a friend who wanted it for a wall rug. Both were quite scrawny, and the first one had a serious case of mange. That was in the winter of 1980 and 1981 for the second one.
Paul B.

I wore those fur lined parkas in Korea in the 80s and 90s until the Army moved to the ECWCS- Extreme Cold Weather Clothing System. That was GoreTex coat and pants with polypropylene underwear of different densities. Both worked well in those cold Korean winters. They had transitioned to the GoreTex by the time I went through the Arctic Training Center in Alaska, 1991. They also issued Mickey Mouse boots; “inflatable” insulated rubber boots. The black ones were fine in Korea but we got the more heavily insulated white ones in Alaska. They were great if you didn’t move around but they made your feet sweat with any activity. I just wore GoreTex lined Danners in Korea and Colorado.

 

[Mobuck]

Another reason I hunt deer with a suppressed rifle. Popping coyotes doesn't scare the deer so I don't hesitate to shoot yoties. One memorable day I shot 5 coyotes before finishing the day with a very nice buck that came by only minutes after the fifth coyote.

 

[6GUNSONLY]

My brother-in-law and an uncle of my wife's used to make good extra $$ in the winter trapping (New Mexico high plains). Coyote, badger, bobcat. Was in the Bronco with Uncle Wort one day and he pointed at a big rock outcropping and said "I call that $600 rock." He'd caught two bobcats there and got $300 each for the pelts. This was in the early 80s.

 

[XUSNORDIE]

Another reason I hunt deer with a suppressed rifle. Popping coyotes doesn't scare the deer so I don't hesitate to shoot yoties. One memorable day I shot 5 coyotes before finishing the day with a very nice buck that came by only minutes after the fifth coyote.

I'm glad you mentioned this. Because it's true. Some people think shooting yotes/predators (even at night) will ruin their deer hunt. I had permission to night hunt on a farm that had a ton of fox and yotes now and then. The farmer also gave a few others access to hunt deer. They threw a fit and tried to convince the farmer to not allow me to hunt there. The farmer told them to simmer down or they wouldn't hunt at all. The farmer also had a fox problem. One night my buddy and I took out several red fox and a yote. A couple of our sets were within spitting distance of their ladder stands. Our last set was directly under my buddy's stand. We actually took out a fox as they were walking to their stands. We could see a light in the distance across the field. We both got in our stands for the morning deer hunt. My buddy and I both took does. The hissy fitters got two bucks and a doe. We went to see the farmer before heading out to ask what he wanted (we always offered him whatever cut of venison he wanted) and waited for the hissy fitters to get to their trucks. We pulled up next to them and showed them the deer in back of my buddys truck and all the fox and the yote in my truck bed. They still had a hissy fit and said we were ruining their hunt. We did not have suppressed rifles. One of the hissy fitters said he saw our red lights and heard a shot as he was walking to his stand. Called us stupid and said we were too close to his stand. He was one of them that took a buck.

 

[contender]

Something like this???

Near the end of deer season in 2021. I shot the coyote first,, then soon after,, the buck. Went to get the coyote,, and found the shed.