Colt 1911A1

[Johnnu2]

I've been asked to help a (non-gun) friend sell to a local (only) FFL his WWII (?) 1911A1. I'll be heading over to the Colt Forum, but thought I'd ask you all if you think that this serial number pictured is: 821060 (?). I don't know anything about collecting so, I'm just starting out helping this friend (from grammar school :-). Any additional thoughts would be appreciated. I do know that he'll hve to get me LOTS of pics beyond this one.

THANKS,
J.

 

[PRichardson87]

Sure looks like it to me.

 

[Jim Walsh]

Yes.

 

[Rich/KY]

Agree on the SN but puzzled by the electro pencil number on the slide. The rear sight looks to be a target style which makes me wonder if this was set up as a target gun. Have him take it apart and look for other electro pencil numbers on the bushing, barrel and frame that match. The NM guns I am familiar with are all marked with the last four digits of the frame SN when built so curious who might have assembled this one. He may need a bushing wrench, the match guns barrels and bushings are a tight fit. More detailed pics would certainly help us ID what he has. Some of the 1911's the CMP has been selling have been modified in various ways similar to this and the provenance of his would tell a lot about what and where it came from.

 

[Johnnu2]

Thanks Rich.... I knows some of the history of the gun; he got it from (I believe he said) a guy who was a target shooter back in the 80's. I'll eventually get a look at the gun and some pics hopefully. Will be back sooner or later :)Thanks again,
J.

 

[hittman]

https://www.colt.com/serial-lookup/
This says 1943

 

[Johnnu2]

THANKS hittman..... that will certainly help my buddy who STILL thinks the "1" is a "/"

J.

 

[hittman]

Yer buddy must be day drinking …. Have him look at it again tomorrow. :ROFLMAO:

 

[Johnnu2]

YUP..... he's really not a "gun guy"..... the link you sent should help him understand (I told him to put in HIS serial number..... a then "OURS" :)
J.

 

[RC44Mag]

On the top of the slide it looks like a rack number engraved in, can you zoom in on that? And any other numbers, letters engraved.

 

[g5m]

Be sure to try to get an accurate value for it. The Colt forum should be able to help if given many more pictures. Depending on condition it may be quite valuable.

 

[XUSNORDIE]

Looks like original BO-MARs and aftermarket long trigger. Probably a surplus pistol converted to bullseye gun. Any markings on the hood (top or below) or bushing face?

 

[Fire Chief]

You can also try asking here. https://forums.1911forum.com/ There are a lot of knowledgeable collectors on this forum. include as many pictures as you can.

 

[gunzo]

The hammer marks at the slide release pin hurt value as well as the electro marking, With the Bomar on the rear the front sight is likely aftermarket & maybe silver soldered on. Many of those modified like that in the 50's & 60's by military armorers. Some were really high end, National Match all the way, but most just had a few add ons.

Not trying to run it down, just being realistic about the value of it & it not being in great condition or original. The value in it to most might be that it's probably just a good ole shooter.

 

[blume357]

Hope you don't mind but I messed with the picture a bit to see things better:

 

[ArizonaTea123]

Hammer marks on the slide release pin. Somebody not knowing how to break down a 1911.

 

[Johnnu2]

Thanks everyone. I'm working on him for pics, but he's not a "gun guy" so, I'll keep trying.
p.s. the Colt guys (MANY of them) mentioned the 'bubba marks' on the slide release pin. I admitted to them that I scratch the hell outta my own guns (and I do know how to take them apart; I'm just impatient and somewhat lazy).
J.

 

[XUSNORDIE]

Get assigned to a military armory.......bubba marks? You wouldn't believe me if I told you the condition some of 1911s (or many other weaps) I've seen issued in one condition and returned n another.

 

[eveled]

One of mine came like this. The scratch goes from the top of the slide to the trigger. Looks like you could drop a needle in and play a song.

I suspect your friends gun is an ugly duckling. Something someone put together, to embarrass people with fancy guns. Make sure you shoot it before you sell it.

 

[ArizonaTea123]

One of mine came like this. The scratch goes from the top of the slide to the trigger. Looks like you could drop a needle in and play a song. View attachment 80157

I suspect your friends gun is an ugly duckling. Something someone put together, to embarrass people with fancy guns. Make sure you shoot it before you sell it.

That is a very common scratch from reassembly/ cleaning. Never seen one that long and deep though.

 

[XUSNORDIE]

The owner of the pistol in post #19 needs some practice installing a slide stop.....looks like they went with the "somewhere in the middle" technique...."oops dang!.....oops dang!......click.....finally!"