CCG Blackhawk in 480 Ruger Value?
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RonEgg
Buckeye
I would only be giving a guess, wish it were mine. You can go to his website and get a pretty good idea.
Clements Custom Guns
Clements Custom Guns
RonEgg
Buckeye
I looked at the site and the cost to have one built on your Bisley is $1895, worth every penny.
Lots of factors with anything custom. gotta figure a little on what the host gun is and how much of that is still intact and as-shipped. Then consider the work and who did it. Just because someone did work to it, doesn't mean value has gone up and it can most certainly detract from the value. With Clements being one of the 'good" guys. I wouldn't worry about that. Then consider it's appeal in the market a bit. Ex: even a Bowen job in a really oddball chambering isn't going to be a in-demand item.
Last aspect to consider...what would YOU pay for it - be honest and not just think high price because it might be yours.
I know, no $ given but it's hopefully something to go by. In the end it's worth only what someone will pay for it.
Last aspect to consider...what would YOU pay for it - be honest and not just think high price because it might be yours.
I know, no $ given but it's hopefully something to go by. In the end it's worth only what someone will pay for it.
CraigC
Hawkeye
Figure about 75% of its replacement cost if it is like new. Considerably less if the condition is less than excellent.
powder smoke
Hawkeye
Not sure of the dollar value but that is one sweet revolver I'd like to own it. ps
Hondo44
Hawkeye
Notwithstanding everything said above which is all correct; Value is two things: what it's worth and what price someone will pay to buy it.
It's worth $1895 plus the price of a Bisley balckhawk; around $2300. But typically anyone that would pay that much will have Clements make one just the way he wants it. The price of Custom guns is seldom recouped for that reason. That's to say someone might pay $2300 for it but the market place wouldn't be knocking down the door. And even 75% would be tough to get but you can't beat the exposure of internet auctions!
It's worth $1895 plus the price of a Bisley balckhawk; around $2300. But typically anyone that would pay that much will have Clements make one just the way he wants it. The price of Custom guns is seldom recouped for that reason. That's to say someone might pay $2300 for it but the market place wouldn't be knocking down the door. And even 75% would be tough to get but you can't beat the exposure of internet auctions!
Boxhead
Buckeye
My rule of thumb for a quality custom in high condition is the price of the base gun + 50 - 60% of the current pricing for the alterations.
mohavesam
Hawkeye
Replacement cost + cash value.
So what monies would it take to put a second identical custom gun on your kitchen table? (shipping, transfer fees, etc included)
Ther's your answer.
So what monies would it take to put a second identical custom gun on your kitchen table? (shipping, transfer fees, etc included)
Ther's your answer.
Hondo44
Hawkeye
mohavesam":2vx286e6 said:
Please define cash value - so what would the total be in dollars assuming $20 shipping and $35 transfer fees?
What everybody is trying to tell ya is that the gun is "worth" whatever you're willing to pay for it and the seller is willing to accept.
The builder may put a "price" of $2000 on it, but it's only "worth" that if someone's willing to cough up that much money for the privilege of taking it home with him . . . regardless of quality/workmanship, and I'm by no means making light of Mr. Clements' considerable talents.
Not trying to be a wisea$$ here. Custom guns have a limited appeal. To me, they're not worth anything, because they hold no appeal to me. A stock Old Model Blackhawk, on the other hand, will cause me to abuse my wallet every time . . . although someone else may "like" it more than I do, ie, pay more for it than I can/will.
Don't know what else to tell ya.
JMHO
:)
The builder may put a "price" of $2000 on it, but it's only "worth" that if someone's willing to cough up that much money for the privilege of taking it home with him . . . regardless of quality/workmanship, and I'm by no means making light of Mr. Clements' considerable talents.
Not trying to be a wisea$$ here. Custom guns have a limited appeal. To me, they're not worth anything, because they hold no appeal to me. A stock Old Model Blackhawk, on the other hand, will cause me to abuse my wallet every time . . . although someone else may "like" it more than I do, ie, pay more for it than I can/will.
Don't know what else to tell ya.
JMHO
:)
Double Maduro
Single-Sixer
knuckles said:
Maybe, because of how Ruger overbuilds everything, it would be the worlds first crew served single action handgun. :oops: :lol:
DM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'd say DM is implying that the way Ruger builds stuff, its version of a .480 single action would be even larger than the Clements version . . . thus approximating the size of a "crew-served weapon" . . . you know, like a howitzer.
At least that's my take . . .
;)
At least that's my take . . .
;)
Jaybirdjtski
Bearcat
I agree with everything said. I follow stuff on Gunbroker just to pass the time and I seldom see a Freedom Arms sell for the reserve price, the minimum the seller will accept. Usually, with a "fair reserve" price there are no bids. Same with the occasional custom handgun gun like this one.
What it cost new becomes irrelevant. In fact, it seems to be about the same situation for expensive rifles. Collectibles like pre 64 Winchesters or older S&Ws, Colt SAA, 1911s, that sort of thing get alot of action. It all comes down to "this is your money." Not all guns are investments, no matter how long you keep it. They are not even "good deals" sometimes despite what the original owner paid. Occasionally, I'll watch a "no reserve" auction with a starting price of $.01. Sometimes there is so much action that it gets overbid and sometimes....ouch! One particular model of a collectible antique handgun a dealer had a reserve of $1200 and got no bids. Another auction, same thing, sold for less than $200.
If it is the caliber you want, I'd suggest a used Super Redhawk. I would guess $600 or thereabouts. Maybe it needs a trigger job but then it should be an accurate handgun. My 454 Casull SRH is very accurate.
What it cost new becomes irrelevant. In fact, it seems to be about the same situation for expensive rifles. Collectibles like pre 64 Winchesters or older S&Ws, Colt SAA, 1911s, that sort of thing get alot of action. It all comes down to "this is your money." Not all guns are investments, no matter how long you keep it. They are not even "good deals" sometimes despite what the original owner paid. Occasionally, I'll watch a "no reserve" auction with a starting price of $.01. Sometimes there is so much action that it gets overbid and sometimes....ouch! One particular model of a collectible antique handgun a dealer had a reserve of $1200 and got no bids. Another auction, same thing, sold for less than $200.
If it is the caliber you want, I'd suggest a used Super Redhawk. I would guess $600 or thereabouts. Maybe it needs a trigger job but then it should be an accurate handgun. My 454 Casull SRH is very accurate.
7p's
Single-Sixer
Well bokaloo, not everyone has a desire or financial resources to own a custom revolver put together by a high quality gunsmith – others may purchase a custom revolver for pride of ownership and knowing they have something different from most in the hunting fields. What make watch do you wear? some wear a Timex and others wear a Rolex but both keep time accurately enough for the common man. I would guess the owner would probably want $1,500 to $1,700 for this revolver. If you want it – get it, if not pass and someone else will pick it up at those prices and be damn glad they did.
There's always deals to be had as long as you're in the right place at the right time - most of us are either a day late or a dollar short on the "deals" we always hear about but never get in on.
There's always deals to be had as long as you're in the right place at the right time - most of us are either a day late or a dollar short on the "deals" we always hear about but never get in on.
