Bought a used tumbler, complete with used media. I put in 50 .357, once fired, with no lube, and 50 .44, well used, with lube. After 2hrs. in the tumbler, The .357 cases were clean, with barely any dust. Most of the .44 cases are crusted with a black sooty coating. ( I hope I can get it off- will try Iosso cleaner). What gives? Time for new media?