A Ruger bullpup?
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A definite maybe! I don't see a PC bullpup as the PC9 is doing great and Ruger has yet to follow through with a 45 or 10mm.
A rifle caliber BP would be interesting. An AR type action would be difficult and given the competition in the regular ARs I don't see it. But one fireing from a locked bolt in 7.62, 7mm08 (7mm magnium?), 450 BM, or for exotic a precision style rifle in 338 lapua (if the 338 regular precision does well).
A rifle caliber BP would be interesting. An AR type action would be difficult and given the competition in the regular ARs I don't see it. But one fireing from a locked bolt in 7.62, 7mm08 (7mm magnium?), 450 BM, or for exotic a precision style rifle in 338 lapua (if the 338 regular precision does well).
Look how long it took to get a 1911, or an AR platform. I don’t see them going to the bull pup design, which is a lot less popular than those two designs.
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Ruger markets volume sales designs these days. Unless projections are made based on distributor commitments, I'd say a bullpup center fire is not forthcoming. Several states have length requirements to be met or those markets would be out of consideration.
Of course, contingency designs are old news, so just because it my exist "on paper", I doubt millions of dollars in tooling will not be realistic.
Yes, Kel-Tec already builds several successful designs, so engineering is likely to start with good design examples, as any successor company would. So would the AUG and old Bushmaster designs be considered for re-engineering.
Of course, contingency designs are old news, so just because it my exist "on paper", I doubt millions of dollars in tooling will not be realistic.
Yes, Kel-Tec already builds several successful designs, so engineering is likely to start with good design examples, as any successor company would. So would the AUG and old Bushmaster designs be considered for re-engineering.
mohavesam said:
Well, the recently introduced PCC hit the market with no previous demand or commitments. I don't think anyone saw that one coming. It was a calculated guess on Ruger's part that it would be a fun marketable rifle. From my perspective, Ruger introduces many guns that have no big precedent, like Single Seven, Single Nine, Single Ten, .327 Magnums. They will bring a piece out just to see if it will fly.
Hate to tell you but before the PC9 there were the AERO, HiPoint.... in multiple calibers. I expect Ruger to come out with at least a PC10 and 45. To be competitive they need to have caliber conversion kits cheaply.
But Ruger does some development besides the revolver market, e.g. the RPR Interest in bull pup is growing and the market is fragmented allowing room for a couple different entry paths. Bolt actions in calibers like: 7mm08, 308, 300blk, .... Semi autos in rimmed calibers e.g. 38 Super, 357, 41, 44, 45 colt, 480Ruger, 460S&W, 45/70....
Whether any will happen is to be seen. Hopefully Ruger will float trial or two.
But Ruger does some development besides the revolver market, e.g. the RPR Interest in bull pup is growing and the market is fragmented allowing room for a couple different entry paths. Bolt actions in calibers like: 7mm08, 308, 300blk, .... Semi autos in rimmed calibers e.g. 38 Super, 357, 41, 44, 45 colt, 480Ruger, 460S&W, 45/70....
Whether any will happen is to be seen. Hopefully Ruger will float trial or two.
Not the point. When the PC9 came out there was lots of competition including bull pups. I don't see leverage in a bull pup PCC (pistol caliber carbine) in a rimeless cartridge.
I think that there is potential for bull pup Bolt action in a small case hunting (target?) rifle caliber(s). Likewise a semi auto feeding a rimmed cartridge from a box magazine would have a lot of potential.
The question is whether Ruger wants to get into either of these markets and what the sales potential is in them. Ruger does very well in the No1 niche-but it's development and production costs are sunk, so the niche is profitable. Ruger has not done anything with the PC9 followons in 45 and 10mm. This in spite of the PC9s success.
Ruger already has rifles in the short action category. So development and tooling to put a bull pup in production would be small; but one of their major competitors would be Ruger's own rifles.
The other possibility of a magazine fed semi auto using rimmed cartridge would be new. Mossberg and Remington 870DM shotguns show it's practical, but the development and tooling costs would be high.
I think that there is potential for bull pup Bolt action in a small case hunting (target?) rifle caliber(s). Likewise a semi auto feeding a rimmed cartridge from a box magazine would have a lot of potential.
The question is whether Ruger wants to get into either of these markets and what the sales potential is in them. Ruger does very well in the No1 niche-but it's development and production costs are sunk, so the niche is profitable. Ruger has not done anything with the PC9 followons in 45 and 10mm. This in spite of the PC9s success.
Ruger already has rifles in the short action category. So development and tooling to put a bull pup in production would be small; but one of their major competitors would be Ruger's own rifles.
The other possibility of a magazine fed semi auto using rimmed cartridge would be new. Mossberg and Remington 870DM shotguns show it's practical, but the development and tooling costs would be high.
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