#1-A in .223

[oldrodder]

Can anyone tell me if this rifle is "Rare"? I have a line on one but the owner wants $1500 for it.
Seems high to me, but???????????
Thanks...and have a very Merry Christmas!!!!

 

[gewehrfreund]

Yes, it's rare and commands a high price as a result.

 

[oldrodder]

As a result of ongoing shoulder problems, I can no longer shoot my big "boomers". I sold my 45-120 and my .458 WM.
I posted on a Canadian firearms site that I was looking for a #1V in .223 to buy outright or trade my
#1-V in .300 WM. So far, no takers, hence my interest in the 1-A. Thanks for the reply.

 

[gewehrfreund]

1V in 223 is pretty common and a lot less expensive. I have an fairly rare 1AB in 223 that I put an Alex Henry forearm on and it's essentially an "A" without sights.
You might also consider one of the recent 1A in 222 Rem.; there are still quite a few out there for sale and again, it will be less expensive than the rare 1A 223.

 

[oldrodder]

I'm not looking for a rare rifle, just something to shoot .223. I've played with .22 center fire for 50 or more years now and I've never owned a .223.
It's time and I would want my first one to be a #1.

 

[black029]

Well, it seems you ARE looking for a rare rifle, you just haven't accepted that fact yet. Or seen the writing on the wall.
Peace.

 

[Big Old Boy]

I know of a ab223 for only$1600.

 

[oldrodder]

Well, it seems you ARE looking for a rare rifle, you just haven't accepted that fact yet. Or seen the writing on the wall.
Peace.

I originally set out looking for a 1V in 223 which are common enough and this 1A came up. I was curious as to it's value.
Thanks everyone for your input.

 

[picketpin]

The "A" Light Sporter and the AB Light Standard Sporter is also rare.

They did make the 223 as a "B" Standard Rifle for a bunch of years. It is now discontinued but I think all the "B"s are 1:12 twist.

They also made the "V", the early ones up till 133-xxxxxx have 1:12 twist rates. The newer ones are 1:9 to stabilize the 69 grain .224 bullet. It doesn't stabilize/shoot the more common 40-50s and 55s. Both the "V"s have 24" barrels. I sort of like the "B" a bit better than the "V". A "B" with a 26 barrel and the .224 hole down the middle weighs right at what the heavier profile but shorter "V" weighs. I've always opted for the "B" for the extra 2" of barrel.

The longer barreled 223s do come up and cost less, compared to the 223 in the "A" and "AB" rifles. That said the "V" and "B" are starting to sneak up in price now that both are discontinued.

I'd think you biggest choice is do you want to shoot 40 -55s or 69s??? That will determine which 223 #1 you really want .

Remember a 26" barreled #1 is the same length as MOST bolt guns with 22" barrels. A 26 is actually handy but the 22" light barreled ones are QUICK. I have 2x7-28 Compacts on my light ones and that makes a very small and handy package, BUT unless you get lucky you'll pay a premium for either the 223 "A" with sights or the "AB" no sights but the semi beavertail for rare and usually they demand a premium. Especially as the rarity is recognized. I paid $550 for a 223 "AB" about 8 years ago. The last one I bought was right at $1500!!

As gwehr mentioned the "AH" light sporter but no sights, is a really handy walk around varmint rifle. ;-) Just have to find an "A" or and "AB" to start with.

Good luck

Ross

 

[JFB]

IF you decide not to get the 1A , I would appreciate a notice where it is being offered.

 

[oldrodder]

IF you decide not to get the 1A , I would appreciate a notice where it is being offered.

I notice that the ad was removed from the site so, it sold a few days ago.

 

[HAWKEYE#28]

:!: .........The A 223 lives in the same realm of rarity as the 7MM 08 in the #1A. Suggest we pay attention to the cost of current production # 1 rifles and accordingly, note that the value/cost of the rare guns has not gone up, yet............just sayin'........ 8)

 

[gewehrfreund]

Shhhhhhhhhh! :wink:

 

[HAWKEYE#28]

SHUSH...........WASN'T THAT ONE OF PUTIN'S AGENCIES? LOL...........(I have some......)back to the Baileys' look alike.......... 8)

Shhhhhhhhhh! :wink:

 

[No-1]

Been looking for a 1V in 223 (since I already reload it) haven't found one local. Probably going to end up with a 1V in 22-250 I found. It includes 100 rds of ammo and a scope so that's a couple hundred I won't have to spend getting it ready.

 

[oldrodder]

Been looking for a 1V in 223 (since I already reload it) haven't found one local. Probably going to end up with a 1V in 22-250 I found. It includes 100 rds of ammo and a scope so that's a couple hundred I won't have to spend getting it ready.

I might have to do the same thing, although I already have 3 bolt guns in this calibre.

 

[oldrodder]

Patience is certainly a virtue!!!! I just received a mint #1-V in .223! Came with rings and a 6-18 Bausch&Lomb scope installed.
This is a red pad rifle, serial # 132-87XXX My #1-V in .300 WM is in the same range and was made in the mid 70's.(I think?) Am I right in assuming that the .223 is from around that era?? This rifle would likely have a 1-12" twist?
Thanks for the help,
Mike

 

[gewehrfreund]

No. That serial number would indicate production sometime in the late 1980's most likely. There were no No. 1 223s until around 1980 or later, I believe

 

[HAWKEYE#28]

No. That serial number would indicate production sometime in the late 1980's most likely. There were no No. 1 223s until around 1980 or later, I believe

You are correct, Sir. 8)

 

[gewehrfreund]

No. That serial number would indicate production sometime in the late 1980's most likely. There were no No. 1 223s until around 1980 or later, I believe

You are correct, Sir. 8)

Always good to have confirmation from an expert :wink: