Many times, websites have an agree to terms and conditions box to check before going to the site. Do you read them or just charge ahead. I must admit I am a charger.
Do you click the I Agree box without reading??
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Sadly, I am half and half. I didn't read FB terms, and other well known sites like Amazon. However, I DO read terms for unknown or more obscure sites VERY carefully.
Yaworski
Hawkeye
Usually not. Just click and go.
It would take half a day to read some places' "terms and conditions" and "privacy policy"
Click it and hope for the best.
There was a car dealership a few years back that snuck some wording into the "fine print" at the bottom of the sales contract. The fine print said something like "If you read this, you have won $10,000", and they sold a whole bunch of cars before a lady finally read the "fine print".
Click it and hope for the best.
There was a car dealership a few years back that snuck some wording into the "fine print" at the bottom of the sales contract. The fine print said something like "If you read this, you have won $10,000", and they sold a whole bunch of cars before a lady finally read the "fine print".
I’m the same. If it’s a new website or something I’m unfamiliar with, then yes.
But if you truly try to read them, you almost need a law degree to fully understand the meaning.
But as far as my wallet is concerned, I only use my credit card on a very small handful of websites.
xTopGun
Buckeye
you mean the more than eight separate pages just for FB..... sure we do
Xrayist
Single-Sixer
I have found on some websites, if you don't click you don't get to enter. Also with upgrades to computer software. There were new drivers to install for my Epson printer and it would not let me proceed without clicking the "I agree" box.
That yes-no question ain’t a negotiation.
You either do or you (generally) don’t get in.
You either do or you (generally) don’t get in.
xTopGun
Buckeye
I'm holding my breath expecting any day now that our '26 vehicle will say it has new updates, but if I don't agree to their terms I'll never be able to start it again.... wait for it
After reading it all, I would need a lawyer to explain exactly what I had just read.
Paul B
Hunter
There's one site whose name I won't mention that has over15 pages of terms you have to agree with to enter. I was't all that interested anyway but a friend told me about all the lawyer BS so I went and took a look see He wasn't lying.
Paul B.
Paul B.
Occasionally I will read through it but usually not. If I do read it I'm trying to verify something specific but that's normally not the case.
TestEngineer
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99%+ of the time, I just hit the 'back' button and leave the website. If they want permission to do crap I don't like - then I don't want to do business with them anyway. Their loss.
Hertervillian
Saluki
In the same situation, I grabbed the papers sat back and said “wow this is going to take a bit”. The look on the salesman’s face was priceless.
Specs
Single-Sixer
For years I used to go to the Turner Classic website to check the schedule for upcoming movies. Now they have the legal mumbojumbo to agree with so that they can use your information, whatever that is. They admit it in the request. I do not agree!
What would be helpful would be if there were some court cases where someone was being sued by a company for not commplying with some wording hidden deep in the voluminous text which preceds the "I agree" box. The plaintiff could tell the court the obvious, that it is too difficult and time consuming to read all of the fine print, and that no one really does it, and therefore no one should be held liable. A rational judge would agree and a precedent would have then been set.
Specs
Single-Sixer
"A rational judge"?
protoolman
Service-Sixer
Hey, I was a judge recently for 3 different municipal courts in North Dakota. I think I was and many of my acquaintances were rational. In fact the entire court system including federal judges were " rational" there. I never ran across an activist or irrational judge in the state. I'm sure there was an outlier somewhere but on the whole a pretty solid bunch.
If they require my CLIK to agree
I generally shop elsewhere.
Don’t readily put phone or email.
the agree box is no different than any other disclaimer you sign...
I was taught in chimney sweep school the only function of a disclaimer is to discourage someone from calling a lawyer.
Means nothing in this day an age... but does give some people a job.
I was taught in chimney sweep school the only function of a disclaimer is to discourage someone from calling a lawyer.
Means nothing in this day an age... but does give some people a job.
Sometimes I think a lot of that has happened.I never read "forum rules"
Xrayist
Single-Sixer
The issue is, I have purchased the printer, really like it and want to be able to use it. If I don't click the "I agree" box when doing upgrades on either the software or new drivers, the printer may become unusable. Since I registered my printer when I bought it so as to be able to have a warranty, I really don't worry that by clicking the "I agree" box, that they will get my information....they already have it, as does the store that I bought it from. I won't give any website/company/etc. any of my personal information if I have not dealt with them in the past/have a current relationship with them. Annoying to have to click the box, but not near as annoying as not being able to use a multi hundred dollar printer.
If it’s a contract (like house or car) or property then yes.
If it’s a website or liability wavier or medical or other crap we’re bombarded with then no. No point in it and it’s useless junk created by someone weak minded believing a shyster lawyer. It can’t hurt me, I’m not going to pay if I feel I shouldn’t, collecting is pretty hard and likely impossible, and whomever can get sued regardless of whether there’s a ‘wavier’ or not.
Years ago it took hours of ‘training’ for a former employer to explain their social media or sexual harassment training which was woke and useless and I didn’t pay any attention to that either.
Most of that stuff is pretty useless from a legal perspective. I have no idea why they put it there in the first place. It doesn’t stop a lawsuit or really even limit liability.
Think it must be the same people who post those no guns signs. But I ignore them too.
If it’s a website or liability wavier or medical or other crap we’re bombarded with then no. No point in it and it’s useless junk created by someone weak minded believing a shyster lawyer. It can’t hurt me, I’m not going to pay if I feel I shouldn’t, collecting is pretty hard and likely impossible, and whomever can get sued regardless of whether there’s a ‘wavier’ or not.
Years ago it took hours of ‘training’ for a former employer to explain their social media or sexual harassment training which was woke and useless and I didn’t pay any attention to that either.
Most of that stuff is pretty useless from a legal perspective. I have no idea why they put it there in the first place. It doesn’t stop a lawsuit or really even limit liability.
Think it must be the same people who post those no guns signs. But I ignore them too.
That’s why the ‘I agree’ in practice carries no legal weight and actually hurts the company that buys into a requirement to do it.
If you don’t do it the product now has a risk of becoming defective and now not working.
So one could easily sue the manufacturer for breach of warranty and knowingly making a defective product if one doesn’t want to ‘agree’ to follow on contracts. It opens them up for litigation rather than limits liability.
protoolman
Service-Sixer
Regardless of what you click, by going on the web to several different sites you gave up all rights to privacy. Companies that have data breaches are so common that we've all been affected by now hundreds of times.
When traveling and you got to pee. Do you have to find a road side rest stop with a bathroom and toilet or a out house to go walk over to a pee,,,, or do you just pull over and pee by your truck outside cause ya gotz to go ?
I read somewhere that Adam was the first one to ignore the Apple T&Cs
