gunzo said:
Wood grained cardboard box with a styrofoam liner.
I still have mine! :wink:
I'm leary of buying a Ciener at this time though. It was just announced that Mr. Ciener is facing federal charges. So, maybe no more parts for those.
Hadn't heard this before, so googled it.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/11/07/sheriffs-arrest-jonathan-arthur-ciener-on-fraud-charges/
It's not gun charges, it's "fraud" charges, which should come as no surprise to anyone who's ever dealt with him. He has THE WORST customer service in the gun bidness, and maybe in the history of the universe. For years he has rountinely thumbed his nose at the federal commerce regulations. Have never heard of anyone actually be defrauded by him but MANY people have waited months and months for product to be shipped, while their checks have already been cashed.
My own personal experience is that if you want a Ciener unit, buy it from a retailer such as Brownell's, otherwise be prepared to be patient. But you WILL eventually get your thing, and when you do, it WILL work as advertised.
I have a documented 15,000 rounds though one of my units with no visible wear except some discoloration in the breech area. Hard to imagine anything will ever break or wear out. His magazines are quite good, too. I own four of his units and wouldn't hesitate to own another.