Yes, well I lucked into a very nice blue Blackhawk just last week, but otherwise I am seeing the same things you are and worse. I bought the Blackhawk because it said Used, moderate wear, I was planning to just throw on a stainless Bisley grip frame and not worry about it, but the gun came in and it is in nearly NIB condition, really nice, so I can't make myself do it. Looking for a Bisley Blackhawk but not liking what I am seeing.