Just for the heck of it. Looked like one guy, probably the vet, gave the bear an injection, before the other guy pissed off the bear, then killed it.
Everyone in this video deserves to die. I said what I said. What a bunch of morons
Just for the heck of it. Looked like one guy, probably the vet, gave the bear an injection, before the other guy pissed off the bear, then killed it.
While that may be true for just run of the mill ammo for both calibers, it is not the whole story. Here is the real story on the ammo power of the calibers discussed herein: (11) the 9mm is a very weak load, which I call a pea shooter. BUT,, there are a few 'high powered' 9mm rounds, and Buffalo Bore makes one that produces 500 ft. lbs. And in semi-auto handguns (pistols), this may be too much power for most. But, if shooting this high powered 9mm round in a revolver, then there would be no issue. The 'average 9mm round delivers around 350 ft. lbs. (2) The 10mm is noticeably more powerful than the 9mm, with the 'average' load being around 475-500 ft, lbs, and the max at 728 (Grizzly). (3) The .357 Mag (almost exclusively a revolver round and not usable in almost all pistols) is the most powerful of all three of these, far more than the 9mm, and noticeably more than the 10mm. Its 'average' load delivers 600 ft. lbs, and the max round is 907 ft. lbs. (PPU).The is a bit misleading. That penetration is not the whole.story. There has to be enough impact force.to deter the attack and 10mm on average has double what 9mm.does
While it is fun to try to calculate numbers vs. quality, when an animal is coming at you that can kill you at 30-35 MPH, you will never get off more than 4-6 rounds before impact, and more realistically more like 2-4 rounds.. Also, upon impact, the semi-auto pistol will not fire if the gun is pressed up against the body of the animal, but a revolver will always shoot.I watched the beginning and end of that video last night. I can say that they jammed 20 minutes of info into 1:17 like it was nothing. That guy on the left could talk for 20 minutes and all you'd know is that he saw a young Brown bear approaching him. It was painful. So painful that they made Hickok45 seem like a man of few words, and downright concise LOL
With that said:
I did the math using Buffalo Bore HD ammo only. Forget the 9mm they both chose. It was 10mm vs 44 Mag. You have sixteen 220 gr. bullets of 10mm in a Glock 20 or a S&W M&P. At 635 #'s per round that equates to 10,160 foot pounds. If you have six 340 gr. bullets at 1401 out of a 5.5" Ruger Redhawk you're carrying 8,886 foot pounds of energy.
It boils down to six shots vs 16 shots at a lesser impact per round. You decide.
Did you clean and eat it? Just to fly into the ointment, I spend a good amount of the year in bear country. I have found that UDAP bear fogger has worked each time I used it, and has a 25 foot range without wind. No noise, no mess, no 'splainin' to do.Not a grizzly encounter. I put a 180gr Nosler Partition through a Black Bear , then watched about 45 seconds of Tasmanian Devil ensue. Fell over dead 20yds from point of impact.
That experience leads me to believe "dead on their feet", isn't a good solution. I have a 10mm that I can shoot much better than the .41 it has replaced, in the woods protection role. Trauma kit, including tourniquet, resides on the weak side. An indication of my faith in stopping a motivated bear, black or grizzly.
Heck yes, pretty much the point of me shooting him. As far as my experience with 3 bears they run a very close second to elk, and in some cuts preferable.Did you clean and eat it? Just to fly into the ointment, I spend a good amount of the year in bear country. I have found that UDAP bear fogger has worked each time I used it, and has a 25 foot range without wind. No noise, no mess, no 'splainin' to do.
Buy or borrow an electric fence charger for a few weeks. Leave the wire in place. Guy can ruin a bait pile with some fuel oil, might try some, be careful though as it'll kill grass even where rain washes it.I've been dealing with constant bear raids for the last month. I have no feeders up or any reason for them to be tearing my place up....several times they have been on the deck overturning furniture and just knocking stuff around. This has been the worst spring for bear damage. I believe its due to us no longer having a dog as our beloved American Pit Bull Terrier "Buster" passed last year. Almost every night we are awakened by a big Momma Sow (estimated about 300lbs) and four cubs (estimated 180-200lbs) coming over the gate to top deck and knocking stuff around. Yes, I had bird feeders up that they destroyed but nothing now. I didn't even put up the humming bird feeders this year. Learned my lesson. But they are back. My top deck is their playground for whatever reason....lower deck has the grill and smoker...they don't touch it. My wife put up solar powered lighting and they must of thought they were feeders because they tore them down and dismantled them.
Anyway...the first few times they arrived we went to the sliding door of kitchen to top deck, flicked the light on and were face to face with momma sow, who huffed, hissed, popped jaws and charged the sliding glass door and hit it.....stopped and just continued to huff and fog up the window....this being maybe a couple feet with just glass as a barrier. My upstairs/bedroom gun is a G19 w/TLT light stuffed with 124gr Hydrashoks......I'm not comfortable with that at all if these brat bruins decide to crash the door. Wife and I both have 12 GA in our bedside wardrobes....the 1 buck has now been replaced with slug....the G19 has been replaced with my G40 long slide stuffed with Buffalo Bore 180gr Heavy......not really too concerned with them getting in house...but we have guests leaving our place at times and don't want them walking to car and getting near Momma sow and cubs....so I escort them to car with G40 in hand.
I never really let black bears bother me....come across them in the woods often and they high tail it away fast....but this Momma sow that has staked claim here since last fall has given me a bit more perspective after being face to face with her....
I think it's very diet dependent. Gotta have them finished on blueberries.Bears are edible, but they don't taste that good.
I've had some pretty awesome bear burgers.........but the same buddy who made those burger also made a roast from same bear......nope not for me. Tasted way too tangy if not tainted. Or maybe it was the mushrooms and onions it was engulfed in.....I'd eat those burgers again though in a heart beat.Bears are edible, but they don't taste that good.
Isnt that bonnie's main squeeze, in front of one of his favorite steal, a '33-34-35 v8?
Isnt that bonnie's main squeeze, in front of one of his favorite steal, a '33-34-35 v8?
I'll bet one of those BARs would come in handy with a charging bear …
I'll bet one of those BARs would come in handy with a charging bear …
As dumb as this was, and sticking with the topic of the OP, they used a 9x18 to dispatch the bear.Everyone in this video deserves to die. I said what I said. What a bunch of morons