We're screwed: Raytheon is building Skynet for the USAF.

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ProfessorWes

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Yeah, I'm with Peter Grant: Raytheon needs to fire their marketing department.

http://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2015/07/whats-in-name.html

Paging Sarah Connor. Sarah Connor, would you please pick up the white courtesy phone . . .
 

GunnyGene

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This is not as far fetched as folks might think. DARPA has been working on ( and funding) advanced research of surveillance, autonomous goodies, energy weapons, and stuff we've never even thought of, for a long time, as have the major (and some minor) defense contractors such as Boeing, Grumman, Lockheed, many Universities, and dozens of others. Some of it is operational.
 

SAJohn

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Throughout my career in DoD, I worked numerous times with DARPA and was mightily with that group. Sadly, I cannot say the same about the few times I worked with (not for) the CIA.
 

GunnyGene

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SAJohn said:
Throughout my career in DoD, I worked numerous times with DARPA and was mightily with that group. Sadly, I cannot say the same about the few times I worked with (not for) the CIA.

I'm impressed! DARPA is on the bleeding edge of a lot of stuff. Just surfing their website gives a peek into some of what they have an interest in. :shock: :D
 

wunbe

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The US military industrial complex needs to learn to STFU! These jerks brag about stuff still in R&D so our rivals then have countermeasures waiting to degrade their effectiveness or spoof them even as they are deployed. I remember these clowns bragging about INFOWAR as it was coming on line in total disregard for the fact that the US was most vulnerable to such tactics.

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Critch

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"What good is a secret weapon if you keep it secret?"-President Merlin Merkel from Dr. Strangelove.
 

Rick Courtright

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GunnyGene said:
I'm impressed! DARPA is on the bleeding edge of a lot of stuff. Just surfing their website gives a peek into some of what they have an interest in. :shock: :D

Hi,

I watched a documentary not long ago on DARPA. They have a term they use for really, really challenging problems that sane people would say can't be solved. I believe the term they used in the show for such problems was "DARPA tough."

Rick C
 

redhawker

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Well, maybe Skynet's time machine is actually real and it has sent a T-800 or two back in time to assure it gets built?
 

GunnyGene

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Speaking of: Here's an interesting insight by the AI community about autonomous weaponry. It should be banned. Right. Won't be tho. It's just too cool. No weapon has ever been successfully banned. A few thousand years ago some people wanted to ban bows and arrows. 70 years ago, people wanted to ban nukes. If a weapon can be imagined and built it will always be used.

Robotics experts from around the world have called for a ban on autonomous weapons, warning that an artificial intelligence revolution in warfare could spell disaster for humanity.

The open letter, published by the Future of Life Institute, has been signed by hundreds of AI and robotics researchers, as well as high-profile persons in the science and tech world including Stephen Hawking, Tesla CEO Elon Musk and Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak. Celebrated philosopher and cognitive scientist Daniel Dennett is among other endorsers who've added their names to the letter.

Developments in machine intelligence and robotics are already impacting the tech landscape -- for instance, camera-equipped drones are prompting new debates on personal privacy and self-driving cars have the potential to revolutionise the automotive industry. However, many experts are concerned that progress in the field of AI could offer applications for warfare that take humans out of the loop.

The open letter defines autonomous weapons as those that "select and engage targets without human intervention". It suggests that armed quadcopters that hunt and kill people are an example of the kind of AI that should be banned to prevent a "global AI arms race."

"Autonomous weapons are ideal for tasks such as assassinations, destabilising nations, subduing populations and selectively killing a particular ethnic group," the letter continues. "We therefore believe that a military AI arms race would not be beneficial for humanity."

http://www.cnet.com/news/ban-autonomous-weapons-urge-hundreds-of-experts-including-hawking-musk-and-wozniak/
 

pete44ru

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gramps said:
Why are we screwed?

I thought Raytheon was an innovative, tech savvy company ?

gramps


I'm guessin' that you've never seen any of the Terminator sci-fi movies, huh ?


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mohavesam

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TitanX said:
...Somehow, with that, and what I understand about the efficacy of government, I think we are sitting ducks awaiting the attacks of our adversaries.

is everyone kidding here? We are all much more valuable as worker drones and dependents of the Fed. Lets get real. What value does a smoldering radioactive former city have? Keep 'em working, watching spectator sports and dance shows and spending Fed dollars on gasoline...
 
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Neural networks. Brain chemistry. Emulating the human brain and how it's neurons fire.

Creating the same energy and signal pathways our own brains use.

These things can dream. We can look at their dreams. How they see the world is very strange...

http://www.iflscience.com/technology/artificial-intelligence-dreams

Why we automatically draw the conclusion that AI will be homicidal towards us, I don't know.

I wonder if we will ever fully map out the human consciousness...

To see how these concepts could apply, I suggest watching a couple movies:
Transcendence and Chappie to name a couple.
 
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mohavesam said:
is everyone kidding here? We are all much more valuable as worker drones and dependents of the Fed. Lets get real. What value does a smoldering radioactive former city have? Keep 'em working, watching spectator sports and dance shows and spending Fed dollars on gasoline...

So true...
 

redhawker

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mohavesam said:
is everyone kidding here? We are all much more valuable as worker drones and dependents of the Fed. Lets get real. What value does a smoldering radioactive former city have? Keep 'em working, watching spectator sports and dance shows and spending Fed dollars on gasoline...

When the machines take over they don't care if its a smoking radioactive city. Wouldn't harm them. (If you're going by the movie scenario anyway).
 

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