I know not to take anything on TV or the movies as valid, but on an episode of the series "Counterpart" on STARZ TV, a character empties a regular water bottle, stuffs a cloth into the bottle, then hold it over the muzzle of the semi auto as he fires a round into a nearby individual. Of course on the show the sound is almost totally eliminated, but it made me wonder how much noise suppression this would actually provide. I might just try it myself at my next visit to the range, but wondered what you might think about this.
Water bottle as home made suppressor
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Busterswoodshop
Buckeye
I am not saying that I have done it but , a 2 liter soda bottle taped to a .22 works good for a couple shots.
It is just kind of hard to conceal under your coat.
It is just kind of hard to conceal under your coat.
Pat-inCO
Hawkeye
Be sure and let us know what a hole in your hand feels like.
Cracker-American
Blackhawk
I don't know for sure but I have been told by those that have used them. A 1.75 ltr coke bottle does work a suppressor for a .22 rifle. Also a balloon or condom over the end of the barrel. Not totally quiet but suppressed enough to shoot a garbage raiding coon out of a tree in a residential neighborhood.
Watching TV the other day a saw an old movie that had a 'bad guy' screw a silencer on a revolver. Bet that worked wonderfully. :roll: 
Fox Mike said:Watching TV the other day a saw an old movie that had a 'bad guy' screw a silencer on a revolver. Bet that worked wonderfully. :roll:
Might if it were a Nagant Gas Seal Revolver.
I suppose one could load a .22 short into a .22lr semi auto and it would be pretty quiet. The action wouldn't even make any noise as it wouldn't cycle. Attach a light weight liter water bottle and it would likely not be too large and be pretty quiet.
GunnyGene
Hawkeye
All kinds of redneck cans have been tried with varying degrees of success. One of the more popular is a common screw on oil filter - new of course. What you need to understand is that if the bullet has to penetrate your redneck can (or hits an edge if not perfectly concentric with the barrel ) it will have an adverse effect on accuracy and terminal ballistics, and may blow it off the muzzle. Gunny Swaggers' bottle trick from a row boat notwithstanding. :roll: :wink:
If you want a can spring for the money to buy a real one.
If you want a can spring for the money to buy a real one.
Pal Val
Buckeye
Word of caution: If you think what you see on TV is real, go ahead and hold that bottle in front of the muzzle. Just remember that the bullet is not the only thing that goes out the muzzle. There's also a lot of very hot gas at a high pressure. You're looking for a nasty burn. The doctors need the business, anyway.
blackhawknj
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Years ago a college buddy and I bought some of "those" books, went out in the woods in the Dark of the Evening, tried some of those "redneck" cans and.....most worked pretty well, 5-10 feet away all you heard was this somewhat soft and ambiguous sound.
toysoldier
Hunter
I held an empty 2-liter soda bottle over the muzzle of a .22 rifle and fired a shot. The noise was the same as if I had whacked the edge of a table with the bottle. Not silent, but not a gunshot.
Vito (and any who might be thinking of doing something like this) As soon as you hold/tape/affix that to the muzzle you have just broken federal law by manufacturing/using a suppressor without the tax stamp. I'm not saying you would get caught but just saying that, by federal law, can get you sent to prison or heavily fined or both if you were.
Theoretically, a 2 liter soda bottle loosely packed with 00 or 000 steel wool should work for several shots become it is unuseable :wink:
Theoretically, a 2 liter soda bottle loosely packed with 00 or 000 steel wool should work for several shots become it is unuseable :wink:
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That is why we do these things in the Dark of the Evening, or Behind Closed Doors-and take no pictures of them.
Enigma
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blackhawknj said:
And don't talk about them on open forums. Or post video on Facebook.
RSIno1
Hunter
Someone in the past was making a screw on adapter to mount a bottle. Feds deemed it constructive intent for possessing one.RoninPA said:
Colonialgirl
Hawkeye
Fox Mike said:Watching TV the other day a saw an old movie that had a 'bad guy' screw a silencer on a revolver. Bet that worked wonderfully. :roll:
I bet it was one of them SNUBBY Nosed 38's ; Did he pick off somebody at 50 yards without aiming like they do in Mannix and some of the other dectective shows?
PFFT ! PFFFT!
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Boys before you do something hurtfull (as in sometimes stupid hurts) ...go buy you a box of CCI 22 LR QUIET...
out of a rifle ...I've heard the popping the top of a Budwieser louder than the CCI Quiet ....I had been live trapping and transporting raccoons to a wildlife area but double shoulder surgery has forced harsher methods ...are they effective ...never ever had an escapee ...(30 to 70 feet) ....a bunch of no escapees trust me ...40 grains at just under the speed of sound versus a 12 grain .177 or 14 grain .22 pellet is simply in a different league ...bolt,lever of single shot as will not self load in and auto but since dimensionaly the same as a 22LR it will feed properly
Bear
out of a rifle ...I've heard the popping the top of a Budwieser louder than the CCI Quiet ....I had been live trapping and transporting raccoons to a wildlife area but double shoulder surgery has forced harsher methods ...are they effective ...never ever had an escapee ...(30 to 70 feet) ....a bunch of no escapees trust me ...40 grains at just under the speed of sound versus a 12 grain .177 or 14 grain .22 pellet is simply in a different league ...bolt,lever of single shot as will not self load in and auto but since dimensionaly the same as a 22LR it will feed properly
Bear
Gangsters were the first I learned who were taping or attaching a 2 liter plastic bottle to the muzzle end about 30 years ago, maybe was LA area, I do not recall.
".go buy you a box of CCI 22 LR QUIET..."
"out of a rifle ...I've heard the popping the top of a Budwieser louder than the CCI Quiet"
Yes, we've used "quiets" and yes, they are fine especially "out of a rifle" and effective at contact or very short range. If those are your use parameters, the quiets are an answer. What I found is that ammo isn't accurate enough for longer ranges. Reducing the muzzle blast is easy but doing so while retaining accuracy is tricky. We tried 1/2 dozen of the low noise types and found ONE that fit our use AND THEN IT WAS DISCONTINUED. We still use low noise ammo on the trap line since accuracy is not an issue @ 3'.
I have LEGALLY designed and built 2 rim fire suppressors that are noticeably quieter than the "rifle/QUIET" combination(basically "snap your fingers" level) and produce a level of accuracy worth bragging about. In fact, by holding the bolt closed on a 10-22 or 22/45 you can reduce the sound more since the action makes as much noise as the muzzle blast. Suppressing a rim fire isn't difficult but maintaining a user friendly size and weight isn't as easy as it might seem.
"out of a rifle ...I've heard the popping the top of a Budwieser louder than the CCI Quiet"
Yes, we've used "quiets" and yes, they are fine especially "out of a rifle" and effective at contact or very short range. If those are your use parameters, the quiets are an answer. What I found is that ammo isn't accurate enough for longer ranges. Reducing the muzzle blast is easy but doing so while retaining accuracy is tricky. We tried 1/2 dozen of the low noise types and found ONE that fit our use AND THEN IT WAS DISCONTINUED. We still use low noise ammo on the trap line since accuracy is not an issue @ 3'.
I have LEGALLY designed and built 2 rim fire suppressors that are noticeably quieter than the "rifle/QUIET" combination(basically "snap your fingers" level) and produce a level of accuracy worth bragging about. In fact, by holding the bolt closed on a 10-22 or 22/45 you can reduce the sound more since the action makes as much noise as the muzzle blast. Suppressing a rim fire isn't difficult but maintaining a user friendly size and weight isn't as easy as it might seem.
RSIno1 said:
You can still find them and the screw on adapters for using oil filters. They are legal to own (constructive intent has been shot down in enough courts now that the ATF doesn't press that concept much any more unless it is an extreme circumstance) but if you mount a bottle or an oil filter without having the tax stamp you have broken the law. In these cases the adapter is not the item requiring the tax stamp. Whatever you put on the adapter is considered the "suppressor" and it requires the tax stamp. I don't know if I would want to pay $200 and wait for 8-12 months to get a tax stamp for an item that is only good for a very few amount of rounds fired through it. Once the filter or bottle is no longer useable, you can't just put another one on, you have to get the tax stamp for the new filter or bottle. Oh, and to be legal you have to put a serial number on the filter or bottle.
A lot of people, like Mobuck, do build their own suppressors, perfectly legal as long as you have submitted an ATF Form 1 and paid for the stamp (for each and every one you want to build). Me, I'll go with a suppressor designed and built by those with the expertise and engineering experience.
Little known fact, most suppressor engineers are versed in fluid dynamics because the gases when they exit the gun barrel and go into the suppressor act like fluids more than just gases so the engineers use those facts/dynamics to try to figure out the best way to cool them to muffle the noise level when they exit the suppressor.
