Wadcutter load for LCR 38spl
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WESHOOT2
Hunter
No.
3.0g Bullseye, 3.2g W231.
'Medium' crimp (most highly recommend Redding Profile Crimp Die).
3.0g Bullseye, 3.2g W231.
'Medium' crimp (most highly recommend Redding Profile Crimp Die).
same here, as well as we like to "turn around" them hollow based wadcutters, for around the house, turn up the 'load' "slightly".... :wink:
contender
Ruger Guru
I had to chuckle when I saw Dan's response. I have kept 38 spl HBWC's by hornady "inverted" in our home SD guns for over 25 years. Add in that I use 3.2 grns of bullseye, and have tested them into several mediums, they mushroom out to over double their diameter. Mild to shoot, and accurate.
WESHOOT2
Hunter
(I was offering 'start' data 8) )
I "upgraded" some years back from the inverted HBWC for wife's S&W M38 Airweight Bodyguard with a kinda-mild 140g XTP-HP over HS6. Man, did THAT take an enormous amount of development time, finding the proper balance of:
mild recoil, reliable function, accuracy, low flash and noise signature, point of aim matching point of impact, mild recoil, and mild recoil, and mild recoil.
They're in the gun now.
I "upgraded" some years back from the inverted HBWC for wife's S&W M38 Airweight Bodyguard with a kinda-mild 140g XTP-HP over HS6. Man, did THAT take an enormous amount of development time, finding the proper balance of:
mild recoil, reliable function, accuracy, low flash and noise signature, point of aim matching point of impact, mild recoil, and mild recoil, and mild recoil.
They're in the gun now.
mr surveyor
SP-101
I load 3.5 to 4.0 gr Unique under Bayou Bullet 138 gr wc.s. Very nice, accurate loads for my old j-frame M36
WESHOOT2
Hunter
Recall, one bullet is lead, the other plated.
Use enough powder for them to exit.
Use enough powder for them to exit.
clayflingythingy
Single-Sixer
Weshoot,
Both Berry's and Rainier tell you to use lead bullet data IIRC.
I shoot the Berry plated wadcutter using 2.7 grains of Bullseye.
Both Berry's and Rainier tell you to use lead bullet data IIRC.
I shoot the Berry plated wadcutter using 2.7 grains of Bullseye.
WESHOOT2
Hunter
Experience with plated bullets taught me a slight bump in charge weight over the suggested lead load works better.
Your results may vary.
Your results may vary.
clayflingythingy
Single-Sixer
Weshoot,
Sounds like you had a bullet stuck in the before @ some time in the past.
Had that happen to me once. No powder in the case. Primer was sufficient to drive the bullet into the bore. Surprisingly difficult to remove.
Sounds like you had a bullet stuck in the before @ some time in the past.
Had that happen to me once. No powder in the case. Primer was sufficient to drive the bullet into the bore. Surprisingly difficult to remove.
WESHOOT2
Hunter
I personally have NEVER made ANY ammo that left its bullet squibbed in the bore. I learned from other's experience.
(I taught my kids with a GP100 and rubber bullets, indoors.)
I have, however, made cartridges (at least one :mrgreen: ) that need a BFHammer to remove its spent case :shock:
Yee-haw!!!!!
(I taught my kids with a GP100 and rubber bullets, indoors.)
I have, however, made cartridges (at least one :mrgreen: ) that need a BFHammer to remove its spent case :shock:
Yee-haw!!!!!
I've never been a huge fan of the HB WC's. The swaged ones are just so soft that you have to watch out for leading or having the base come off the bullet. I really prefer a hard cast DE WC. Using those, you can practice plus have a flat nosed bullet that works great on smaller vermin. I'm not walking all the way out to the garage for load data right now.... I know I usually use a hard cast DEWC in .357 cases and Green Dot powder. I load it more like a mid range load than a total powder puff target load.
Gregg
Gregg
WESHOOT2
Hunter
"Brass Flailing"
Gregg, I like the HBWC for punching nice, clean holes in paper targets but stopped using them because they cost more than your average 158 grain swc from a local caster. It's the crb showing it's ugly head again. 8)
I never stuck a bullet with my super light 231 loads but I always used lead bullets and fairly short barrels. I would absolutely increase the powder charge if I was using a jacketed bullet or a long barreled revolver or rifle.
I never stuck a bullet with my super light 231 loads but I always used lead bullets and fairly short barrels. I would absolutely increase the powder charge if I was using a jacketed bullet or a long barreled revolver or rifle.
My dad's favorite load for HBWC lead bullets in a .38 Special was always 3 grains of Bullseye. Back when primers were a lot cheaper, he boasted that he could make these for just a few cents a round--less than 22 LR sells for now.
I recently went to the range with a box of cartridges he made many years ago, and began shooting them from my 50th anniversary .357 Blackhawk. I found the strangest thing happening: there were more holes appearing in my target than there should be. At first I thought someone in another lane was shooting my target. So I pulled the target in, put up a fresh one, and started over. This time, I was the only one shooting. Every time I pulled the trigger, two holes appeared. One had crisp edges and went right where I aimed (more or less). The other was a bit ragged and 4-6 inches lower. I can only conclude that the bullets were coming apart, the top separating from the base. I did not shoot any more of them, and condemned the rest of that box. There were no pieces getting stuck in the bore. I told him about it and showed him the target. He did not know the source of the bullets, but they may have been some decades old.
I recently went to the range with a box of cartridges he made many years ago, and began shooting them from my 50th anniversary .357 Blackhawk. I found the strangest thing happening: there were more holes appearing in my target than there should be. At first I thought someone in another lane was shooting my target. So I pulled the target in, put up a fresh one, and started over. This time, I was the only one shooting. Every time I pulled the trigger, two holes appeared. One had crisp edges and went right where I aimed (more or less). The other was a bit ragged and 4-6 inches lower. I can only conclude that the bullets were coming apart, the top separating from the base. I did not shoot any more of them, and condemned the rest of that box. There were no pieces getting stuck in the bore. I told him about it and showed him the target. He did not know the source of the bullets, but they may have been some decades old.
