That damn Ruger pin

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dfletcher

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When Smith went from "real steel" parts to MIM they changed the hand spring from being attached to the trigger to not being attached. It of course went flying and took me hours to find the damn thing. Then more hours to figure out how it went on to the trigger. That was the hard part.

Sometimes I think I'd rather hear that pump shotgun being racked noise than having a partially disassembled gun in my hand and hearing "ping"
 

CoyoteHunter_

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I agree with you 100% about the little takedown pin that Ruger uses in the LC9S Pro which I own. It's a real pain to take the slide off. I have to get that slide back just a wee bit in order to get the pin to push out. PITA. Why can't they make the gun like a Walther or a Glock which are much easier to disassemble without any tools.

Ruger knows how to do things right with certain guns. My Mark IV is a dream to take apart for cleaning, so much easier than the Browning Buckmark I sold after buying the Mark IV. But pushing out little pins or similar items when other makers have found ways to avoid that step is a frustration with the LC9s.[/quote]
 

Clovishound

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vito said:
Glock seemed to figure out how to make cleaning and re-assembly as simple as possible. Maybe the next generation Rugers will as well.

Except for that safety issue of having to dry fire to remove the slide. Yes, if you make sure it is unloaded before dry firing, it won't go off. Still a very bad design IMO. Stuff happens. Lots of incidents of NDs from this, often from highly trained folks.
 

vito

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Personally I don't think there is ever an excuse for thinking a gun is unloaded when it isn't. Even on guns that I have put away in my safe unloaded, after cleaning, I rack the slide to check it as soon as I remove it from the safe. At the range, after shooting, I rack the slide several times, just to be sure. I no more would leave a round in the chamber than I would point a loaded gun at something or someone I did not intend shooting. I would trade the Ruger system for taking a handgun apart for the Glock system in a heartbeat.
 
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I'm a notorious pin-loser.

I've found a pin-block to be sometimes useful. It's soft, and doesn't damage a gun, and the free pin sticks to the internal magnet. :mrgreen:



 

Clovishound

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vito said:
Personally I don't think there is ever an excuse for thinking a gun is unloaded when it isn't. Even on guns that I have put away in my safe unloaded, after cleaning, I rack the slide to check it as soon as I remove it from the safe. At the range, after shooting, I rack the slide several times, just to be sure. I no more would leave a round in the chamber than I would point a loaded gun at something or someone I did not intend shooting. I would trade the Ruger system for taking a handgun apart for the Glock system in a heartbeat.

I agree that there is never an excuse for ignoring safety procedures. Having said that, people aren't machines and sometimes do things that they never thought they would ever do. I don't believe that technology should be over engineered for unnecessary safety mechanisms. However, when there are simple, effective designs that help prevent serious accidents when people have one of those moments, I believe that is good engineering.
 

5of7

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I keep one of those magnets that are attached to a telescoping rod for this sort of thing. Also, whenever I have to do a disassembly, I have a cookie sheet with a 3/4" high lip around the edge of it. If I drop anything is is usually still on the cookie sheet, if not, I use the telescoping magnet. Works for me.....
 

blammer

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WAYNO said:
I'm a notorious pin-loser.

I've found a pin-block to be sometimes useful. It's soft, and doesn't damage a gun, and the free pin sticks to the internal magnet. :mrgreen:



Very nice. Another gadget to put on my long list of 'must haves'. The bright color and soft (assume grippy) and magnet are better than the solid plastic one I have.
 

blammer

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5of7 said:
I keep one of those magnets that are attached to a telescoping rod for this sort of thing. Also, whenever I have to do a disassembly, I have a cookie sheet with a 3/4" high lip around the edge of it. If I drop anything is is usually still on the cookie sheet, if not, I use the telescoping magnet. Works for me.....
Have one of those, but also bought a big 2inch x 1 inch magnet mounted on a metal frame with a big hook on the top. I tied a string on the hook and then I can just drag it along on the floor without having to bend down. Only problem is cleaning all the metal filings it seems to find in some parts of the basement.
 

blammer

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blammer said:
WAYNO said:
I'm a notorious pin-loser.

I've found a pin-block to be sometimes useful. It's soft, and doesn't damage a gun, and the free pin sticks to the internal magnet. :mrgreen:



Very nice. Another gadget to put on my long list of 'must haves'. The bright color and soft (assume grippy) and magnet are better than the solid plastic one I have.

Found it: Real Avid smart bench block.
 

mpalm

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I read all the posts. Thanks to all for the helpful tips!
Some great new products out there should help me next time I take something apart.
 

indiobravo

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I just added an EC9S to my batch - i love the gun, great shooting, great edc size and feel, but that pin just bites. little parts that will get lost. i am planning on just ordering a few extra right away before the inevitable happens. :?
 

langenc

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SamV said:
Unfortunately, sometimes those small parts never make it to a magnetic tray. They fly away quickly. I will try the mesh lingerie laundry bag trick. I am sure my wife won't mind.
What happens when you can't find your magnetic tray? Mine disappears frequently, sometimes with important parts still in it. My son is always tinkering with electronics and often walks off with my tray sometimes in mid-project. He has caused several duplicate tool purchases.
There are several tiny springs and parts somewhere in my basement, probably sucked into a missing dryer sock black hole.
Maybe an extra magnetic tray for son in a Christmas stocking will help..
 

blammer

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langenc said:
SamV said:
Unfortunately, sometimes those small parts never make it to a magnetic tray. They fly away quickly. I will try the mesh lingerie laundry bag trick. I am sure my wife won't mind.
What happens when you can't find your magnetic tray? Mine disappears frequently, sometimes with important parts still in it. My son is always tinkering with electronics and often walks off with my tray sometimes in mid-project. He has caused several duplicate tool purchases.
There are several tiny springs and parts somewhere in my basement, probably sucked into a missing dryer sock black hole.
Maybe an extra magnetic tray for son in a Christmas stocking will help..
Or put it in a large clear bag (like ziploc) during this part of disassembly. I've never had the pin go very far as it is fairly dense. Remove it over a towel and it won't bounce on table as much.

Yes, it is a minor pain. On mine, the little covering window is also tough to lower to get to the pin.

But it doesn't effect function when shooting and is a pain only when cleaning. If it saved a few bucks on the manufacture and kept the gun small, then I figure it's worth the slight aggravation.
 

blue2golf

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My Ruger LC9 came with a little takedown "key", stamped with a Ruger emblem, to push the pin out of the frame. Works very well.

My LC9s didn't come with the key and I can't figure out why, still gotta push out the pin.
 

GypsmJim

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vito said:
Glock seemed to figure out how to make cleaning and re-assembly as simple as possible. Maybe the next generation Rugers will as well.

Well, I resemble that remark. All my Rugers are a walk in the park. I service everything on my bench with a gun rug on top. The little Ruger pin hits the rug and its there for my reassembly.

OTOH, those pesky Glocks have 2 finicky levers to puish down at the same time and if its not in perfect harmony I spend (no WASTE) a lot of time getting the stupid slide off.
 

boxersdrule

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The cover that blocks the pin flops around & won't stay in any position. When firing it sometimes gets stuck at an angle stopping the slide. Very annoying & a red flag for a carry gun. Considering removing that part altogether or should I contact Ruger?
 
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