SR9 value not so good?

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ArmedinAZ

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So I decided to sell my SR9 because I don't carry it and like shooting the P93 so much better. Ended up selling it locally on Backpage after it didn't get a bite here for $299. Enough rounds to be broken in and proven, excellent condition, bit of trigger F&B. Curious, I thought I'd give RF guys first shot at a good deal.

Just checked on GunBroker, in the past 90 days only 2 NIB SR9s have sold, $351 and $370, guess that answers my question. Not a good investment.

Nice SR9 holster in the classifieds if you're interested.
 

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I look at guns pretty much like I look at vehicles Armed the only way to get my money out of them is to keep them & use them. It does stink you couldn't get more of your money back though.
I'm glad to see you're still enjoying the P-93.
 

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I have an SR-9 I would take $350 for in a heartbeat, but can't get anywhere close to that amount in this neck of the woods. Just no interest in them around here, including me any more. I'll stay with my Glocks and SP101.
 

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onfinal":53xzcqvp said:
I have an SR-9 I would take $350 for in a heartbeat, but can't get anywhere close to that amount in this neck of the woods. Just no interest in them around here, including me any more. I'll stay with my Glocks and SP101.

Sold mine for $300 locally, no interest til it hit that number. Lesson learned for me is buy a used gun first and live with it for a while. Then sell the used one and buy new if it's a keeper. And do better research before buying.
 

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There is nothing unusual about the SR9's used value. Unless a gun is very rare or a highly collectible model, all current guns loose a significant portion of their retail cost almost immediately. Ask anyone who bought one of the Winchester 94 "Commemoratives" what they bring on the used market, even in NIB condition.

If you want a gun to hold it's value buy used. You will probably still lose money if you sell it but not nearly as much.
 

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22/45 Fan":tnqb49g6 said:
If you want a gun to hold it's value buy used. You will probably still lose money if you sell it but not nearly as much.

I think that's what I just said :shock:

See you're in the 'Burgh, moved out here from DuBois in 05, not missing snow yet :D Stillers ain't gonna completely melt down are they?
 

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As I've said 100 times before ... the only gun to lose value quicker and have less interest generated in the used market than Ruger CF semiautos, are Tauruses. The Ruger revolvers always do very well.

In my area, used P-series guns go for $175-225 tops ... MAYBE $250 if it's stainless and has ALL of the paperwork, box, shipper, etc. The P90 is a little higher.

Most dealers in my area won't even take a Ruger CF semi in trade at all, but that generally doesn't come into play because when a seller hears the number that's offered, they generally storm off in anger.

The bottom line is ... whether Ruger semiauto afficionados like it or not, there is VERY LITTLE demand for the CF semis from Ruger outside of people who are ONLY looking for Rugers. The primary reason is the lack of accceptable accuracy compared to other comparable guns in the marketplace. Virtually ANY Glock retains about 80% of it's value FOREVER. A little less percentage wise with the CZ line, XD line, and even the S&W M&P's.

The plastic Ruger semis are particularly bad for value retention, and of course the recall affected guns as well. There are dealers in my area that have had the same new P345's in their case for years, and they don't sell at ANY price.

If you buy a new Ruger CF semi, you better plan on keeping it, unless you're willing to lose about half your investment immediately, or sell it here to someone who doesn't know about them yet.

Before everybody jumps all over me saying that THEY'VE made money selling used Ruger semi's, we're talking about the used semi market as a whole, not the small niche that exists here on the forum. And I know, most guys here will say that THEIR Ruger semi is 'super accurate', and they shoot it better than Glocks, Sigs, Colts, etc, etc. If that were truly the case, the shooting world would be well aware of it. It doesn't take long for the shooting world to find highly accurate guns and buy them ... repeatedly.

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revhigh":231hxehs said:
As I've said 100 times before ... the only gun to lose value quicker and have less interest generated in the used market than Ruger CF semiautos, are Tauruses. The Ruger revolvers always do very well.

In my area, used P-series guns go for $175-225 tops ... MAYBE $250 if it's stainless and has ALL of the paperwork, box, shipper, etc. The P90 is a little higher.

Most dealers in my area won't even take a Ruger CF semi in trade at all, but that generally doesn't come into play because when a seller hears the number that's offered, they generally storm off in anger.

The bottom line is ... whether Ruger semiauto afficionados like it or not, there is VERY LITTLE demand for the CF semis from Ruger outside of people who are ONLY looking for Rugers. The primary reason is the lack of accceptable accuracy compared to other comparable guns in the marketplace. Virtually ANY Glock retains about 80% of it's value FOREVER. A little less percentage wise with the CZ line, XD line, and even the S&W M&P's.

The plastic Ruger semis are particularly bad for value retention, and of course the recall affected guns as well. There are dealers in my area that have had the same new P345's in their case for years, and they don't sell at ANY price.

If you buy a new Ruger CF semi, you better plan on keeping it, unless you're willing to lose about half your investment immediately, or sell it here to someone who doesn't know about them yet.

Before everybody jumps all over me saying that THEY'VE made money selling used Ruger semi's, we're talking about the used semi market as a whole, not the small niche that exists here on the forum. And I know, most guys here will say that THEIR Ruger semi is 'super accurate', and they shoot it better than Glocks, Sigs, Colts, etc, etc. If that were truly the case, the shooting world would be well aware of it. It doesn't take long for the shooting world to find highly accurate guns and buy them ... repeatedly.

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Party pooper. Good thing you're in Pa and I'm in Az or I'd come over there and show you how bad I shoot. I'lll bet I shoot your fancy CZs just as bad as I shoot Rugers.:?

Andy you're probably right. Went to a HUGE gun show in Phoenix this weekend and the guy I went with bought a Glock 21 LE turn-in in really good shape, not as nice as my SR9, for $450 and was glad for the price. The PD probably didn't pay that for it.
 

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Not really trying to be a party pooper ... just stating the truth. Rugers are great semis for pure battle (hence the term 'combat accurate'), but most people spend a lot more time at the range than in combat, therefore most buyers are looking for the most accurate gun they can get for the money. Especially if they're serious about shooting for improved accuracy, rather than just making noise at the range.

It's a rare used Glock that sells for much less than $425, at almost any age and in reasonable condition. You can buy them for $500 new. I wonder why that is ....

CZ's aren't fancy at all ... at least mine aren't ... they just shoot really great.

I'd love to have you come to PA ... I'd have you shooting 3 inch groups at 15 yards in half an hour with some of my 1911's. THEN you'd be a 1911 convert for sure. :D

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ArmedinAZ":3nm4dajn said:
the guy I went with bought a Glock 21 LE turn-in in really good shape for $450 and was glad for the price. The PD probably didn't pay that for it.

I'm sure they didn't ... I bought my G26 brand new for $400 with a $100 off coupon at Cabelas. I'm not a big Glock fan when it comes to accuracy ... they're OK, better than Rugers or M&P's, but nowhere near CZ's or Sigs. Glocks are just tools, nothing to get excited about AFAIC.

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I don't own a Glock & don't want one right now although I do like the G-23. It is hard for me to see paying over $400 for something I can get new for $500 dollars. I just don't see giving that much for used.
 

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The difference Mike is around $100-150 used versus new. People are well aware that there is virtually NO DIFFERENCE between a new and used Glock, and sometimes there is even a benefit to used. It's been thoroughly broken in, the trigger is generally a little better after a few thousand rounds, and you save over $100. Depending on where you live, Glocks can be upward of $550 new, meaning the savings is even greater. That $150 saved is 1500+ rounds of ammo components if you reload.

Glocks have proven themselves so bulletproof and reliable that people have no issue buying them used. They're kind of like the Toyota of guns.

I'd take a used one and 1500 rounds worth of components if I had the choice.

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revhigh":9b6q40dw said:
Glocks have proven themselves so bulletproof and reliable that people have no issue buying them used. They're kind of like the Toyota of guns.
I know there is a huge market and after-market for Glocks. I just don't feel like having a ka-boom. :mrgreen:
 

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revhigh":2zpalsjs said:
As I've said 100 times before ... the only gun to lose value quicker and have less interest generated in the used market than Ruger CF semiautos, are Tauruses. The Ruger revolvers always do very well.

In my area, used P-series guns go for $175-225 tops ... MAYBE $250 if it's stainless and has ALL of the paperwork, box, shipper, etc. The P90 is a little higher.

Most dealers in my area won't even take a Ruger CF semi in trade at all, but that generally doesn't come into play because when a seller hears the number that's offered, they generally storm off in anger.

The bottom line is ... whether Ruger semiauto afficionados like it or not, there is VERY LITTLE demand for the CF semis from Ruger outside of people who are ONLY looking for Rugers. The primary reason is the lack of accceptable accuracy compared to other comparable guns in the marketplace. Virtually ANY Glock retains about 80% of it's value FOREVER. A little less percentage wise with the CZ line, XD line, and even the S&W M&P's.

The plastic Ruger semis are particularly bad for value retention, and of course the recall affected guns as well. There are dealers in my area that have had the same new P345's in their case for years, and they don't sell at ANY price.

If you buy a new Ruger CF semi, you better plan on keeping it, unless you're willing to lose about half your investment immediately, or sell it here to someone who doesn't know about them yet.

Before everybody jumps all over me saying that THEY'VE made money selling used Ruger semi's, we're talking about the used semi market as a whole, not the small niche that exists here on the forum. And I know, most guys here will say that THEIR Ruger semi is 'super accurate', and they shoot it better than Glocks, Sigs, Colts, etc, etc. If that were truly the case, the shooting world would be well aware of it. It doesn't take long for the shooting world to find highly accurate guns and buy them ... repeatedly.

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I couldn't have said it better myself. Excellent analysis! I got so exasperated with my SR-9 I bought a .40-9mm conversion barrel for my Glock 23 and the SR-9 hasn't seen the light of day since. The only reason I still have it is there is zero interest in it around here.

Dearly love my SP-101 and Mini-14, but I'm through with Ruger pistols.
 

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I haven't really priced Glocks since I bought my XD. At that time (late 2007) they had new ones around hee for 500. They wanted 435 for a used one. With only about 65 or 70 dollars difference I would buy new. It's been a while since I've been to a gunshow but I was seeing 2nd gen G-22's for 400. There again I'd be inclined to spend more to get the new unless there was a really significant savings. Thats just because I feel more secure in knowing what I'm getting with a new firearm.
 

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Toyota of guns. :)

Can we say Prius?

Every one of those have been recalled over the accelerator.


A ruger will work and the true value in owning one isn't selling it.


They do get the job done.

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Mike J":2eif88xy said:
With only about 65 or 70 dollars difference I would buy new. It's been a while since I've been to a gunshow but I was seeing 2nd gen G-22's for 400. There again I'd be inclined to spend more to get the new unless there was a really significant savings. Thats just because I feel more secure in knowing what I'm getting with a new firearm.

I can't argue with that logic Mike, I agree if it's $75 difference I'd buy new, if it was about $150 or more, I'd probably go used. I love buying used guns because hardly any of them have been fired much, and I can buy a few thousand rounds worth of components with the savings !! I love components !! :D

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revhigh":ttn97pkr said:
Depending on where you live, Glocks can be upward of $550 new, meaning the savings is even greater. That $150 saved is 1500+ rounds of ammo components if you reload.

Heck, I can pick up a new Glock 17, 19, 22, 22RTF, 23, 31, or 32 with fixed sights, and three mags for $398.20 + taxes (I might have to pay a shipping fee, but I am not sure). With Glock night sights $455.90 + taxes (I might have to pay a shipping fee, but I am not sure).

I can pick up a new Glock 26, 27, or 33 with fixed sights and two mags for $398.20 + taxes (I might have to pay a shipping fee, but I am not sure). With Glock night sights $455.90 + taxes (I might have to pay a shipping fee, but I am not sure).

How are those prices?


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You're cheating Charlie ... LOL ... with that LEO/Military discount. You can also get that same discount for one gun per year by joining GSSF.

By the way, Charlie, you WILL have to pay a shipping fee ... AND a transfer fee as well.

When I analyzed it ... it went like this .... Glock pistol = $400 ... shipping = $35 .... transfer = $25 (roughly) ... GSSF cost to join = $35 (you wouldn't have this, Charlie) ... total (for me and other non-LEO/Military) = $495. I can buy a new Glock right from a store for around $500 ... therefore GSSF makes no sense for me. WIth certain guns you DO get a third mag, though, so this may make it worthwhile to some.

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Personally, I'm very happy with my SR9's. I didn't buy them to resell for profit. I bought them to shoot the crap out of. Well, one of them anyway. The other is my EDC. The practice gun has over 2000 rounds through it and is still very accurate. At least out to 15 to 20 yards. Past that, between cheap ammo, my slight vision issues and poor technique, I can't place rounds inside a 1" target but I can still pull a head shot. I like it much better than the Glocks I've shot. And I've seen a good number of Glocks fail to function properly so I don't buy the whole totally bullet proof idea.

It's a good pistol for what it is and what it's intended to be. At least in my opinion it is. No different than buying about anything used, your probably going to lose money when you go to resell it. Just depends on whether you enjoyed it enough to justify the loss. If not, lesson learned. Move on.
 

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