Hi, new to the forum.I recently picked up a new sp101 .22 that absolutly has some issues.first the action feels like a walmart cap gun.my lady cant even pull the trigger back with her thumb.then the plunger has to be tapped with metal object to eject the spent shells.we tried 4 diffrent kinds of ammo and it didnt matter.....im not impreseed! Should I send it back to ruger or drop it in the lake.lol....to compound my frustration we also bought a new 10-22 that has constant ftf issues...please advise...thanks
sp101....22 woes
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schloss
Single-Sixer
How is it in single action? Have you torn it all the way down and made sure the trigger assembly is clean?
What kind of ammo are you running in the 10-22?
What kind of ammo are you running in the 10-22?
In single action it is sweet.ill admit, ive owned a lot of guns and have never had one that had such stiff action.at first I thought it just needed to break in.so I shot 250 rds thru it and nothing changed.I have not taken it apart.it seems that when you lay 500 down on something you shouldnt have to do that.we tried some cci, winchester, federal, and aguilla ammo in the 10-22.it is all marked 1075 to 1475 fps...I had a few other 10-22 guns in the last several years and if memory serves they always had a few issues.I have a bx25 mag and bx25x2 mag.I really want these guns to work as they should.
schloss
Single-Sixer
I own 1 CZ rifle in 9.3x62, a Remington shotgun, and a Marlin 22. Other than that, I own nothing but Rugers. And the 3 I listed rarely get any range time. I've never had problems with any of my Rugers.
Believe me, people spend a lot more than $500 only to have a bucket of troubles. I would break the SP down all the way and clean it. It simply is the nature of the beast. I always find some grit in the critical areas. Where the breakdown happens, is if we have the manufacturer do the scouring for us, we have to pay them extra, and then there are still a lot of opportunities for the guns to pick up debris along the way. There's no way around it. You need to clean it first.
I'd switch back to the 10 round rotary mag on the 10-22. I run a BX25, but have heard a lot of comments on them not working well. If the rotary mag isn't working right, then you may have trouble.
I really do like guns from a lot of different manufacturers, but I am absolutely sold out on Ruger. In fact, I haven't bought a non-Ruger firearm since 2006.
Believe me, people spend a lot more than $500 only to have a bucket of troubles. I would break the SP down all the way and clean it. It simply is the nature of the beast. I always find some grit in the critical areas. Where the breakdown happens, is if we have the manufacturer do the scouring for us, we have to pay them extra, and then there are still a lot of opportunities for the guns to pick up debris along the way. There's no way around it. You need to clean it first.
I'd switch back to the 10 round rotary mag on the 10-22. I run a BX25, but have heard a lot of comments on them not working well. If the rotary mag isn't working right, then you may have trouble.
I really do like guns from a lot of different manufacturers, but I am absolutely sold out on Ruger. In fact, I haven't bought a non-Ruger firearm since 2006.
schloss
Single-Sixer
Also, was the trigger that bad before you bought it? Or has it gotten worse with use?
Also also - Welcome to our forum! This is a great place to get insight on Ruger products, with some of the nicest, and most Ruger savvy folk you'll ever come across. You sound frustrated and irritated, but trust me, there are good answers out there, and the fixes usually aren't too difficult. We're all here to help.
Also also - Welcome to our forum! This is a great place to get insight on Ruger products, with some of the nicest, and most Ruger savvy folk you'll ever come across. You sound frustrated and irritated, but trust me, there are good answers out there, and the fixes usually aren't too difficult. We're all here to help.
I agree with the comment on switching back to the 10 round magazine. I have a couple of the BX-25's. Mine work better with only 20 or 21 rounds. They seem to jam up with more. This doesn't bother me, especially when I know it and work around the issue.
sorry I can't help with the .22 SP101. I don't have one.
sorry I can't help with the .22 SP101. I don't have one.
charlesappel
Single-Sixer
The first thing I would do, is give the SP101 a thorough cleaning - paying special attention to the chambers. Ideally, the chambers should be bright and shiny. If there are any scratches, tool marks, or burrs a trip back to Ruger may be in order.
ok thanks for the advice guys.i have absolutly nothing against ruger at all..it just suks that both new guns are malfunctioning on the same day.ive owned several rugers in the past with great success so i know the brand is solid.i guess ill take it apart and see what gives.
schloss
Single-Sixer
It shouldn't be that difficult to pull the trigger. Something isn't right. If it just needs cleaning, that's good news. I would guess that is all that is the issue. If she can hardly pull the trigger with her thumb, that's just way too much.
Hopefully the cleaning fixes it up.
Hopefully the cleaning fixes it up.
The Blackhawk Kid
Blackhawk
I would call Ruger and find out what they say. The Tech can give you a Return Merchandise Authorization label and send it back. Ruger will make it good. They always have . Good customer service. BHK
donnyboy108
Single-Sixer
I also am very unimpressed with the SP101 .22 trigger. When I bought it, It had a 13lb DA trigger pull, which is absolutely rediculous. Even by installing the lightest Wolff springs, and still have it reliable, I am down to an 11lb. pull. 
Ruger could make this a 9lb.pull if they wanted to...S&W can do it! Even 9lbs. is too much in my book.
They need to change the firing pin to the flat type, and it would not require such a hard hit! COME ON RUGER!
Thats why my SP101 in .22 mostly sits in the safe.
Ruger could make this a 9lb.pull if they wanted to...S&W can do it! Even 9lbs. is too much in my book.They need to change the firing pin to the flat type, and it would not require such a hard hit! COME ON RUGER!
Thats why my SP101 in .22 mostly sits in the safe.
The SP WILL come with a heavy DA trigger pull, it's the nature of the beast to ensure reliable ignition.
It can be lightened fractionally, but runs the risk of misfires when you mess around with a lighter mainspring.
Would have been advisable to have the wife check the gun out before you bought it, if you planned on her shooting it much.
It's not a gun for those with lesser hand strength.
My wife can't do much with mine, my 10-year old nephew couldn't either.
Not a kids gun.
I'd imagine Ruger considered options when they were modifying the gun into its present configuration.
It is not a Smith, it has a different action, and it is what it is.
Anybody who bought one without trying the action first should have paid more attention up front.
Mine remains factory stock, aside from rounding off the hammer spur edges. I bought it for me. If anybody else wants to shoot it, they either can or can't. If they can't, I don't dump on Ruger for it.
I quite like the critter, you either live with it or move on.
Denis
It can be lightened fractionally, but runs the risk of misfires when you mess around with a lighter mainspring.
Would have been advisable to have the wife check the gun out before you bought it, if you planned on her shooting it much.
It's not a gun for those with lesser hand strength.
My wife can't do much with mine, my 10-year old nephew couldn't either.
Not a kids gun.
I'd imagine Ruger considered options when they were modifying the gun into its present configuration.
It is not a Smith, it has a different action, and it is what it is.
Anybody who bought one without trying the action first should have paid more attention up front.
Mine remains factory stock, aside from rounding off the hammer spur edges. I bought it for me. If anybody else wants to shoot it, they either can or can't. If they can't, I don't dump on Ruger for it.
I quite like the critter, you either live with it or move on.
Denis
donnyboy108
Single-Sixer
DPris said:The SP WILL come with a heavy DA trigger pull, it's the nature of the beast to ensure reliable ignition.
It can be lightened fractionally, but runs the risk of misfires when you mess around with a lighter mainspring.
Would have been advisable to have the wife check the gun out before you bought it, if you planned on her shooting it much.
It's not a gun for those with lesser hand strength.
My wife can't do much with mine, my 10-year old nephew couldn't either.
Not a kids gun.
I'd imagine Ruger considered options when they were modifying the gun into its present configuration.
It is not a Smith, it has a different action, and it is what it is.
Anybody who bought one without trying the action first should have paid more attention up front.
Mine remains factory stock, aside from rounding off the hammer spur edges. I bought it for me. If anybody else wants to shoot it, they either can or can't. If they can't, I don't dump on Ruger for it.
I quite like the critter, you either live with it or move on.
Denis
I have Smith J-frames in .22, that have under 9lb double action pull. It has a coil mainspring just like Ruger. All Ruger had to do was change the firing pin, and they couuld have reduced the pull to 9 lbs.
Todays modern ammunition in .22LR is NOT like .22s fr4om the 1970s. They have much more reliable ignition nowadays.
I am sure I will sell the SP101 eventually. The longer it sits in the safe, the easier it is to get rid of! :wink:
Donny,
I have a near mint S&W Model 34 I highly treasure.
I'm aware of what S&W did & does with their rimfires.
There's more to it than just changing the firing pin. This is not a Smith J-Frame.
If it was that "simple", you seriously don't think they would have done it?
They only left it the way they did to piss people off & deliberately drive away buyers?
And, I recall .22 ammunition from the '60s.
Sometimes I see no real improvement in ignition in the current stuff.
Denis
I have a near mint S&W Model 34 I highly treasure.
I'm aware of what S&W did & does with their rimfires.
There's more to it than just changing the firing pin. This is not a Smith J-Frame.
If it was that "simple", you seriously don't think they would have done it?
They only left it the way they did to piss people off & deliberately drive away buyers?
And, I recall .22 ammunition from the '60s.
Sometimes I see no real improvement in ignition in the current stuff.
Denis
