Single-Six & Super Wrangler comparison

[Star43]

I just clicked on and read all of the posts. That was a very nice and detailed job you did. At this time in late September, I was recovering from a serious auto accident. In short, my car was hit in the rear by a runaway 18 wheeler on the freeway causing me to flip over a couple of times before my car exploded and caught on fire. God sent 3 guys to pull me out as i was upside down, before it blew up. Had to go to hospital. I am recovering now and don't really know why I am even typing this.....but in short I was out of commission during when you were doing this to your gun and grips as I sure would have commented then....you did a great job !! Looks very nice...

 

[GasGuzzler]

God sent 3 guys to pull me out as i was upside down, before it blew up.

....you did a great job

Thank you and thank God you were saved from the wreck. I hope some of the people in the other topics read your full post above.

 

[freakindawgen]

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Great job! Did notice one thing. Ruger using torx screws?

 

[peachhead]

I just clicked on and read all of the posts. That was a very nice and detailed job you did. At this time in late September, I was recovering from a serious auto accident. In short, my car was hit in the rear by a runaway 18 wheeler on the freeway causing me to flip over a couple of times before my car exploded and caught on fire. God sent 3 guys to pull me out as i was upside down, before it blew up. Had to go to hospital. I am recovering now and don't really know why I am even typing this.....but in short I was out of commission during when you were doing this to your gun and grips as I sure would have commented then....you did a great job !! Looks very nice...

Dang. Glad you're here to be posting at all.

 

[Star43]

Me too.......

 

[GasGuzzler]

Great job! Did notice one thing. Ruger using torx screws?

Yeah, I don't mind it. They look better on a new gun and are much less prone to getting buggered up.

 

[Hondo44]

I did notice that the Super Wrangler felt heavier than the Single Six so I put them on my kitchen scale. The Super Wrangler weighed in at 2 lb 5 3/8 oz, 5 3/4 oz more than the Single Six. That seemed like a lot for just an extra inch of the barrel so I started looking at the weights of different parts.

Comparing the weight of a Super Wrangler to the Single Six is an apple and orange comparison.
Compare a Super Single Six for a valid comparison with its heavier top strap like the Super Wrangler.

 

[Yaworski]

Compare a Super Single Six for a valid comparison with its heavier top strap like the Super Wrangler.

Didn't know that there was a Super Single Six. My Single Six has the heavy top strap and adjustable sights and says "New Model Single Six" on the side.

By the way it is easy to compare apples and oranges. Apples are deciduous, oranges are citrus. One is usually red, the other usually orange. Pretty simple, no?

 

[GasGuzzler]

What an a-hole (again). One of the most respected Ruger self taught "engineers" here and we get that as a response. You don't even know if your Single Six is a Super or not. Wow! I feel free now that you have declared I'm on your ignore list. Dolt!

Thank you for the mindful response Hondo. You have many here that actually respect you.

 

[wproct]

All of these types of conversations are great. I'll be sitting in my recliner on a forum on my laptop and I will jump up to head to the basement to look at one of my gun boxes or guns to answer a question on the forum and my wife will say, "oh my God, what are you guys talking about now"?

 

[Star43]

Hey Hondo, In more than one thread I said that I wished you were my next door neighbor so that if I screwed up something on one of my guns that I could just walk next door so you could fix it and make it better than it was in the first place !! Well I am retiring on 12/31, so it doesn't have to be right next door, just someplace close in the neighborhood. Let me know if there are any openings close by.....

 

[GasGuzzler]

Mr. Hondo has helped me a bunch of times.

 

[Star43]

I believe that 100%. Years before I joined this forum, I used to just read his other posts about Ruger guns, and about customizing the guns and or calibers. Hondo has used that single six frame to do many things. He has done a lot of fun stuff and knows what he is doing. That''s why I wanted to be his neighbor !!!

 

[larry8]

I admit I don't know much about single action revolvers as I have mostly double action guns. So I thought about getting a single action 22 LR and/or 22Mag gun. So my first look was to all the Ruger guns and I almost bought a "Super Wrangler", but somebody mentioned to me that the Heritage Rough Rider has a 9 shot convertible with 2 cylinders. So I looked it up on Gun Broker and it was 1/3 the price of a Wrangler. So I bought it and I'm really impressed with that gun. Cleaned it up and oiled it and now off to the armory to shoot it.

 

[Yaworski]

I admit I don't know much about single action revolvers. . .

I looked at the Heritage Rough Ridge years ago and opted to pass on it because it has a manual safety. A safety on an SA revolver? Something done by lawyers to keep the anti-gunners happy.

I like Ruger because of their great customer service.

I bought a Ruger Single-Six over 30 years ago specifically for teaching because it is virtually impossible to fire an unintended second shot. The hunt for another SA revolver started because the Single Six is supposed to go to my son if he ever jumps through all of Commiefornia's hoop.

The new Wrangler had a nice price but they were hard to find so when I found a deal on the gun I call Chiapet, a "Traditions Rawhide Rancher" made by Chiappa, it went home with me.

I then got a Black Friday deal on a Wrangler at "Sportsman's Warehouse" but I'll never shop there again.

Finally, I thought that I really liked having adjustable sights so I started looking at the Super Wrangler. I found one on Gun Broker and brought it home.

The process of hunting for a replacement SA revolver has taken nearly ten years. Now I have four .22 SA revolvers and the question is "do I want to get rid of the two with fixed sights?"

 

[Delbert]

I kept looking at the RR due to it having many replacement upgrades and I like to upgrade all my guns (rifles/pistols and shotguns) to not only make them more personal, even better if I can.

Went to our local pawn shop to finally pick up that Rough Rider a few days before my birthday this past March and while looking over and handling the new/used SA's, I spied a used Ruger Super Wrangler that was very gently used and had been traded in for a rifle, for $250 OTD.

What a great little shooter. I have now incorporated some changes to it by installing some stainless parts made for a Single Six, along with a pair of Arizona Magna-Tusk ivory grips onto it. Also changed and installed a Wolff 19# hammer and 30oz trigger springs.

I moved the aftermarket walnut grips I had on the SW over to the regular Wrangler I purchased just this past summer.

There are some parts from the Single Six that won't work on either the regular Wrangler or Super Wrangler.

The biggest disappointment is the hammer and Trigger from the SS won't simply swap. Neither will the cylinder(s) due to how the SS's cylinder is cut on the racheting system. Yes, the SS's cylinders will fit in the Super Wrangler and visa-versa, but the clocking action is off.

I've even called Ruger to inquire about the grip frame screws between the Wrangler(s) and the Super Six. They said they won't work. WRONG!!!
The screws will interchange between the pistols (as long as it's the New Model SS). Only difference is the nicer torx screws the Wrangler's use, but they don't (nor can get) them in stainless. While the SS uses the simpler slotted stainless screws that one can bugger up easier, but they WILL WORK and are all same length and thread count. I purchased all new stainless screws, as that was easier and more expensive, to get all the screws from one place.

 

[contender]

Yep,, Hondo's advice has helped a LOT of people over the many years here.

I'm sure he's forgotten more than many here will ever take the time to learn. As our beloved FlatGate used to say; "RTFM,, or Get the books!"
So much info is easily available if one chooses to actually take the time to study. The RENE Reference Guide,, or heck,, even the Blue Book has a TON of info on the various models of guns, and details about such models. None of us can keep it all in our heads,, that's why we build libraries of books to give us old pharts a way to reference stuff to make sure we know things before we post stuff.

 

[Yaworski]

Yes, the SS's cylinders will fit in the Super Wrangler and visa-versa, but the clocking action is off.

I have a Single-Six, Wrangler, and Super Wrangler. I tried putting the SS's cylinder into both the Wrangler and Super Wrangler but it wouldn't go. I also tried fitting the Wrangler's cylinder and the Super Wrangler's cylinder into the Single Six and they wouldn't go.

 

[Delbert]

I have a Single-Six, Wrangler, and Super Wrangler. I tried putting the SS's cylinder into both the Wrangler and Super Wrangler but it wouldn't go. I also tried fitting the Wrangler's cylinder and the Super Wrangler's cylinder into the Single Six and they wouldn't go.

Kinda odd. There's many owners on the web (must be true, cause they say so) saying that the cylinders will swap, at least between the SS and SW. Shooting, is another story and that's on them as to whether one could say it works. I/we know the frame window on the Wrangler is much smaller and frame is made of aluminum alloy, so no magnum cylinder from Ruger as frame stretch over time could occur, and why we know the SW and SS won't fit within it.

I know that they weren't designed to be swapped due to machining cuts and engineered spec'd fittings, but self-taught DIY'ers won't/can't leave anything alone.

 

[Yaworski]

Kinda odd. There's many owners on the web (must be true, cause they say so) saying that the cylinders will swap,

Could be a manufacturing tolerance thing. A mil here, a mil there, and now things don't fit.