contender
Ruger Guru
Ok, I have a serious question concerning an internet sale.
Situation;
A person asks in a WTB ad for an item.
I had such item. He asked about a few other things. I had them too.
He asked for a price. It was given, and agreed to.
He first wanted to do a FTF pick-up.
I was agreeable,, yet I wasn't able to drive to meet him. He would have to come to me,, OR,, OR,, I could ship on his dime.
He allowed shipping would be best. He offered PP, to which I'm not set up for that, or any other electronic payment. I said; "A check or USPS money order would be fine."
Here's where it gets weird.
He wants to do a video phone conference sale. He wants to get into a conference with my post office employee, buy a USPS money order over the phone, using his CC. AND,, he wants to have them sell him a money order, over the phone, again using his CC, to be made out to me. That way he says I'd get paid immediately, AND I could ship immediately.
I had NEVER heard of this type of transaction.
We agreed to go to our respective PO's, at a pre-determined time, to try this. I also said I'd have to check with my postmaster about doing this. I got to my PO early, and asked them about this. They've never done it, and would not be able by USPS rules do it.
Well, I texted the buyer, and said that it couldn't be done his way. He offered a video conference to show his face, ID etc. I said for him to call my PO & I provided their phone number. He instead insisted that a purchase could be made via phone & all. Yet, he never called while I was there. I politely said to send me a USPS money order,, and I'd ship the same day I got it,,, OR, a check and I'd wait for it to clear before I shipped the stuff.
He tries to say all kinds of things. Including how he's had m/o's stolen, packages not sent, and doesn't know me, along with conflicting comments about first buying a m/o and a few minutes later says he needs to know if we can complete this & send me a m/o.
After trying to get him to just agree to buy & mail me a USPS m/o, or a check,,, without a response,, I left my PO. I'd spent almost 1/2 an hour at my PO trying to get him to just do a normal transaction. I left & went to work.
He later texts me saying I changed our agreement, and that he'd called my PO & had his PO guy talking to them, saying they could do his type of transaction. He said that 99% of the people in the world do this typo of transaction. (Over the phone stuff.) I said that if I call a company, and place an order, they take my info & AFTER they are assured of payment, they ship my product. And that if I mail a check, it's often held until it clears. But he claims that's not "normal."
All this info above is leading to my SERIOUS question.
Has anybody here on a normal & regular basis been able to call a PO, and buy a money order over the phone for a shipping label, AND a separate money order to be given to a person at the receiving PO for a sale of an item?
My postal guy said never.
And ALL of the folks I've spoken with say "Scam." I too feel it was a scammer. Yet,, the gun forum he's on, he's been a member for about a year with over 100 posts. I have a name, address, and phone number, that sent & received many, many text messages.
And his most recent messages say I was at fault, and I broke our agreement, and that he was willing to let it go as long as I was willing to do the same thing. And that if I contacted the Admins of that Forum, he'd give them all the messages & prove I was at fault.
Basically, a very bizarre exchange where he was pushing for me to ship my stuff at the same time he was supposedly paying for it via the USPS. His main thing was "former rip-offs,, thefts, and not wanting to wait for mail to me & my mail to him."
But this crap of ordering & paying for USPS money orders over the phone was bizarre.
Thoughts? Anyone done this?
And no,, I've not mailed him anything, nor will I. I say scam. But I really want to know if anybody else has done this type of transaction.
Situation;
A person asks in a WTB ad for an item.
I had such item. He asked about a few other things. I had them too.
He asked for a price. It was given, and agreed to.
He first wanted to do a FTF pick-up.
I was agreeable,, yet I wasn't able to drive to meet him. He would have to come to me,, OR,, OR,, I could ship on his dime.
He allowed shipping would be best. He offered PP, to which I'm not set up for that, or any other electronic payment. I said; "A check or USPS money order would be fine."
Here's where it gets weird.
He wants to do a video phone conference sale. He wants to get into a conference with my post office employee, buy a USPS money order over the phone, using his CC. AND,, he wants to have them sell him a money order, over the phone, again using his CC, to be made out to me. That way he says I'd get paid immediately, AND I could ship immediately.
I had NEVER heard of this type of transaction.
We agreed to go to our respective PO's, at a pre-determined time, to try this. I also said I'd have to check with my postmaster about doing this. I got to my PO early, and asked them about this. They've never done it, and would not be able by USPS rules do it.
Well, I texted the buyer, and said that it couldn't be done his way. He offered a video conference to show his face, ID etc. I said for him to call my PO & I provided their phone number. He instead insisted that a purchase could be made via phone & all. Yet, he never called while I was there. I politely said to send me a USPS money order,, and I'd ship the same day I got it,,, OR, a check and I'd wait for it to clear before I shipped the stuff.
He tries to say all kinds of things. Including how he's had m/o's stolen, packages not sent, and doesn't know me, along with conflicting comments about first buying a m/o and a few minutes later says he needs to know if we can complete this & send me a m/o.
After trying to get him to just agree to buy & mail me a USPS m/o, or a check,,, without a response,, I left my PO. I'd spent almost 1/2 an hour at my PO trying to get him to just do a normal transaction. I left & went to work.
He later texts me saying I changed our agreement, and that he'd called my PO & had his PO guy talking to them, saying they could do his type of transaction. He said that 99% of the people in the world do this typo of transaction. (Over the phone stuff.) I said that if I call a company, and place an order, they take my info & AFTER they are assured of payment, they ship my product. And that if I mail a check, it's often held until it clears. But he claims that's not "normal."
All this info above is leading to my SERIOUS question.
Has anybody here on a normal & regular basis been able to call a PO, and buy a money order over the phone for a shipping label, AND a separate money order to be given to a person at the receiving PO for a sale of an item?
My postal guy said never.
And ALL of the folks I've spoken with say "Scam." I too feel it was a scammer. Yet,, the gun forum he's on, he's been a member for about a year with over 100 posts. I have a name, address, and phone number, that sent & received many, many text messages.
And his most recent messages say I was at fault, and I broke our agreement, and that he was willing to let it go as long as I was willing to do the same thing. And that if I contacted the Admins of that Forum, he'd give them all the messages & prove I was at fault.
Basically, a very bizarre exchange where he was pushing for me to ship my stuff at the same time he was supposedly paying for it via the USPS. His main thing was "former rip-offs,, thefts, and not wanting to wait for mail to me & my mail to him."
But this crap of ordering & paying for USPS money orders over the phone was bizarre.
Thoughts? Anyone done this?
And no,, I've not mailed him anything, nor will I. I say scam. But I really want to know if anybody else has done this type of transaction.
And fall in it.
