Ruger Withholding "Proprietary" Information on RXM

[rdouthit]

Was on the phone with Ruger this morning and asked for the weight ratings on the trigger spring and striker spring. The very pleasant lady I was talking to tried to look it up, but she couldn't find the info, so she said she would find out and call me back.

She called back and apologized (I did mention she was polite) and stated that Ruger will not be releasing the spring weights as it was "proprietary information".

Never figured that spring rates were State Secrets.

 

[hittman]

I'm sure there's a way to find out on your own, testing ones already sold.
Somebody already knows or will claim to know.

Totally Ruger's decision and maybe included in whatever agreement they have with others involved in the manufacturing. You can bet the lawyers have their sticky fingers in it.

 

[Yaworski]

I asked Ruger about the spring weight for my Single Six and they wouldn't give it to me.

 

[NikA]

I requested a thread pattern (diameter/pitch) from a manufacturer to gauge 3rd party accessory compatibility and was told it was proprietary. In my mind, it is horse poop to say anything you can easily measure at home from a single sample is proprietary.

Use a trigger pull scale or fish scale and let us know.

 

[GasGuzzler]

100% normal in my book. Why would they share that?

 

[Chipmaker]

Measure it and find out. https://www.centuryspring.com/resources/how-to-measure-spring-tension

 

[the_leper_colony]

A few years back, I was experimenting with AR10 carbine buffers and recoil springs in shortened AR15 buffer tubes/receiver extensions. I went looking for info on AR10/AR15 recoil spring rates, and was surprised at how little is out there! I'm sure the actual military specifications include spring rates, but I didn't run across those, and after-market spring companies weren't very forthcoming, either ("color coding" doesn't tell you a lot). So, I built my own mechanism & did my own measurements using a couple of fishing scales...

 

[Hertervillian]

I'd think it'll be a short amount of time till Wolf has replacement springs available.

 

[matt2636]

they won't give out a service interval either. I asked about what round count should i change the recoil spring and they claim there are too many variables to give an accurate round count. I said thats fine i just wanted a ball park, kinda like what glock does, and they still wouldnt give me an answer. so if i have no problems but the locking block or slide starts to crack or break at 7000 rounds is it going to be my fault for not properly maintaining the gun? since its based off the gen3 glock design my only option tis to go off what glock has put out.

 

[Cofaler]

If it breaks they probably won't say it's your fault, even if it is, and they will probably not blame you and probably fix it for you. They don't want it to be their fault and you blame them. I don't blame them for not putting that out.

The same people who ask for trigger weights would be the first ones to say "Ruger said my trigger weight was X but I measured Y".

'Ruger said to clean my gun every 5000 rounds but I had a failure to feed at 4500"

If Ruger recommended cleaning your RXM after every time you shot it, most would claim BS, and who listens to that anyway? Others would think it wouldn't work if you didn't clean it every time and not buy it because it's a maintenance hog. If Ruger said clean it when it gets dirty people would call and ask them how to know when it's dirty.

 

[Sam Summey]

they won't give out a service interval either. I asked about what round count should i change the recoil spring and they claim there are too many variables to give an accurate round count. I said thats fine i just wanted a ball park, kinda like what glock does, and they still wouldnt give me an answer. so if i have no problems but the locking block or slide starts to crack or break at 7000 rounds is it going to be my fault for not properly maintaining the gun? since its based off the gen3 glock design my only option tis to go off what glock has put out.

The rule of thumb on a 1911 recoil spring interval for replacement is 5000 rounds. I went to Glock Armorer's school twice, never was recoil replacement interval brought up. I am sure there are many handguns with more than 5k on the recoil spring. 1911 16# springs are cheap, so is Glock springs.