I handled a Ruger mini 14 at a gun show with the stock that no only collapses but folds to the side. I have been looking for such a rifle to wear under a long coat, down my back, when I go hiking. I hike a lot of places. Some are kind of remote. I am running into more and more signs of poachers. Some, shooting from private land, seem to be getting very close to the public no hunting hiking trails. Some cross over. I met one possible poacher and he set off every alarm in my body. Anyway, I checked with Ruger and this rfile comes with sling studs. What I forgot to ask was, with the stock collapsed and folded, how long is it? Does anyone have any idea? Thanks.