Ruger RXM?

[davevabch]

I like it! A lot of good features at an affordable price. I just hope they don't recall it three weeks from now.


Remember that time when Ruger introduced a copy of the KelTec P3AT and everyone moaned and complained? Word on the street was that it was doomed to fail. 2 million LCP's later….

There is a whole lot of history of the LCP beginnings and why it became so popular. One was timing. More people started EDC and this was the first time a small pocket gun received so much notoriety. Ruger invested a ton in advertising. It was featured in just about every magazine and media. Most do not remember the dedicated forum "ELSIE PEA". At that time there was not much to compare it with, at least for the General Public. Yes, they became very popular. But that does not mean great quality. It was fantastic Marketing at it's finest. Many that were dedicated pocket gun shooters, would learn that they were "Throw away guns". Shoot then enough and they would fall like a cheap lawn chair. I remember so many times of watching sales at the local LGS'S, Women were big purchasers because they were so small and "cute",
Ruger understood Marketing. There were selling the Sizzle, NOT the Steak. I remember so many times, someone would come in and want a small gun, and the clerk would show the LCP. One thing they would do would be to bring out the Sig 238, which is a much more prized firearm. But the clerk would show the so called benefits of the LCP which was size and lower weight and mostly Lower COST. And They would talk about Ruger's great customer service. The ranges were filled with people shooting these guns. I would guess 95% if the shooters could not shoot them worth a damn. Not many women ended up liking them and most people did not shoot them much at all. People would make all kinds of excuses on the internet. Like they are just bug guns, gut guns, carry often shoot little etc.

 

[heydrich]

Its a solid pistol. Have not had a chance to shoot it yet. Appears well made and I really like the feel and balance.
Will clean and lube and give it a closer inspection. So far, I really like what I see.
The local Fleet Farm got 4 of them in yesterday and as of today, mine was the first sale.
PMAGS................Hmmmmm. Lucky I have all those OEM Glock mags!

 

[Al James]

Hopefully they'll have any bugs worked out by the time they introduce a matte SS version for me.

Please Ruger?

 

[XUSNORDIE]

Lots of folks dogging the Magpul mag......I have a few for the PSA Daggers. Compared to the Glock mags they are slightly looser but I've never had an issue. They have been dropped on the ground a ton during drill/mag change. They still keep ticking...

 

[gc70]

Several aspects of the RXM seem like good ideas: easy modification through modularity; Glock magazine compatibility, and; Glock parts compatibility.

I doubt anyone could seriously argue against using extremely well-proven, widely available and inexpensive magazines. But Ruger will have to prove itself regarding modularity and Glock parts compatibility.

I was an early user of the Sig P250 with its groundbreaking modularity nearly two decades ago. Sig touted the ability to mix and match parts and the projected low price of grip modules (oddly enough, promised to be $40 if I remember correctly). Grip modules carried higher prices then, and even with the successes of the P320 and P365 models, the least expensive grip module I could find on gun.deals for those models was $50 (discounted from $70 MSRP). For well over a decade (until after the P320 was introduced), the availability of mix-and-match parts was more of an aspiration than a reality. Several dealers made good businesses in the early years of buying whole guns and parting them out.

I am hopeful that Magpul's involvement will keep prices down for grip modules, since polymer products are the company's main focus rather than a sideline. Glock slide assembly compatibility should ensure true modularity given the number of makers of Glock upper parts.

Glock lower parts compatibility is a different matter. Glock clones have become highly popular because they embrace a highly reliable design and provide a host for equally reliable parts. The RXM's modular chassis will require at least some different parts, potentially compromising the reliability of Glock's proven design. Only time will tell.

 

[GasGuzzler]

A couple days later and I still have a P95.

 

[Hvymax]

I've watched several review videos and it seems to have a 3-4lb trigger which is good for shootability but questionable without a manual safety IMO.

 

[GasGuzzler]

What's wrong with this?

 

[Sam Summey]

My issue is Ruger becoming a sad copycat. We already have Palmetto all over this. I would describe Rugers attempts at Strikers as mediocre at best. It looks like they got a decent trigger but time will tell how safe it really is. I give them a 0 for plagiarism.

In my humble opinion the RXM has truly a "modular" fire control assembly as does the SIG 3230 product. The attractant for the Ruglock is the price point compared to the SIG. I would expect the Ruglock to have a LGS price around ~$426.

 

[XUSNORDIE]

What's wrong with this?

Nothing at all.......aside from I'm too fat to carry IWB......

 

[welder]

What's wrong with this?

Nothing. I have two now and have had probably a dozen over the years. Zero issues with any of them. I, just me, believe that Ruger could have further refined the P95 and kept a good following.

The RXM? I like choices. It looks promising and I'll probably get one when there's a little beta testing completed. I have several Glocks but have never been able to warm up to the grip angle. The M&P solved all my issues but again, I do like choices and options. I hope it does well for Ruger.

 

[davevabch]

My clone is better than your clone. I wonder when Glock will do a clone of a clone?
Now Glock is more expensive, which does not make much sense. The engineer's are busy making a better mouse trap. Modular design,Better stippling, better grips, better trigger guard, no more trigger pinch etc.
But Glock should be much less expensive. They buy in huge bulk all the parts, etc. All the machinery right there for years. They should sell their gun for $299.
Is Ruger competing with their own product?

 

[hittman]

My clone is better than your clone. I wonder when Glock will do a clone of a clone?

Rumor has it the G1911 will hit the market April 1

 

[Actnbill]

I got to hold one yesterday... It's about $100 cheaper than a Glock 19......The plastic frame and mags are Magpul and the Slide /upper is Ruger......I do like the removable modular innards like the Sig , the optic mounting surface on the slide, the Tritium front sight and the flared Magwell......

I didn't really like the Gray colored frame and the Mags seemed cheaper than Glocks and didn't appear to have any metal lining in them like Glock...

I have no doubt these will show up used before long and will be in the $275-$300 range like plenty of other 9mm's......

Think I'll wait for this one to hit the used shelves.....

 

[gunman42782]

It's hard for me to get excited about it, but dang it, I just ordered one from KY Gun company! LOL. I had one of the Anderson Arms Glock clones, and I really liked it honestly, but sold it when someone wanted it more than I did. I think it was only 300 bucks when I bought it, but of course it didn't have quite all the bells and whistles the Ruger has. I honestly could care less about the optics cut, but I do like the tritium steel front sight. The modularity of it matters little to me as well, as I think the size is about perfect for CCDW. Kind of boils down to what i posted earlier, just about everyone makes 1911s and ARs these days, and now just about everyone makes their version of a GLock. Crap, when Smith came out with the Sigma it was so much like a GLock that Glock sued them and won! At least with the patent runed out Ruger don't have to worry about that. If you think about worst case scenario sort of thing, when the crap hits the fan, civilization gone to hell, what 3 weapons are going to be most prevalent, where you might be able to use the magazines in a "battlefield pick up"? ARs, 1911s, and Glocks. Heck, my favorite 9mm pistol I own is actually a Springfield copy of the Browning Hi-Power! I do wonder if this is the end of the Ruger American, that didn't seem to catch on, even though it seemed to be a good pistol.

 

[the_leper_colony]

...The PSA Dagger Compact will accept Glock parts except for the locking block & the pins...

That is NOT true, to the extent that Glock parts will interchange on Glock pistols. For example, a Glock 23 40 cal slide (or a Glock 32 .357SIG slide) will drop right on and function correctly on a Glock 19 frame, but when Dagger owners (including "yours truly") have tried a Glock 23 top half on a Dagger frame, the slide can be forced into place, but it will NOT function (the Dagger trigger bar interferes with & binds the slide). You can get it functioning by modifying or replacing the trigger bar, but either approach voids the PSA warranty; in fact, adding ANY non-PSA parts voids the warranty.

The common perception of the phrase "Glock compatible" is based on experience with Glock handguns, which includes the ability to interchange Glock factory parts on Glock frames, and the ability to use aftermarket parts designed for Glock factory handguns. The PSA Dagger is only partially "Glock compatible", and it's worth knowing that before you buy the PSA product. And FWIW, I'm a long-term PSA customer, and recommend the company & its products to my friends (although some of their products have limitations ;^)...

As always IMHO, YMMV, FWIW, etc., etc...

 

[davevabch]

Ruger SR9C vs RXM

 

[Mike J]

That is NOT true, to the extent that Glock parts will interchange on Glock pistols. For example, a Glock 23 40 cal slide (or a Glock 32 .357SIG slide) will drop right on and function correctly on a Glock 19 frame, but when Dagger owners (including "yours truly") have tried a Glock 23 top half on a Dagger frame, the slide can be forced into place, but it will NOT function (the Dagger trigger bar interferes with & binds the slide). You can get it functioning by modifying or replacing the trigger bar, but either approach voids the PSA warranty; in fact, adding ANY non-PSA parts voids the warranty.

I guess I should have written in that 9mm Glock parts would interchange. I do recall seeing someone post that they had modified a Dagger to be able to put a G-23 slide on it but I don't remember the particulars. 3rd Gen. G-19 parts will work with it though.

I only own 2 PSA products. One is an AR I put together from one of their blemished "Premium Rifle Kits" during the Obama years. It is still mostly stock. I did change the original trigger for their EPT trigger & the handguard. The other is a Dagger.

 

[mac66]

I think it's a smart move by Ruger to do a Glock clone. As someone said Ruger put out a 1911 and AR15 because they were/are very popular. Glocks and their clones are probably the most popular guns on the planet right now. Why wouldn't a company (like Ruger) with a huge customer base not jump on the band wagon?

I'm not big glock fan, my only Glock is an old gen 2 G22 but I've been considering getting or building a G19 clone. Really have no use for it but if I did, being a Ruger fan I'd consider an RXM

 

[3manfan]

I wasn't impressed either when I saw the first pics of it making the rounds but I watched several video reviews last night & it is actually a pretty well thought out piece.
Sure, there's the possibility that all of the gun-tubers who posted reviews were sent the cream of the crop & gremlins may arise in the one's sent out to the public, but the design features make it worth buying to me especially at the $399 I've seen so far at outlets. That will likely drop a bit once the new car smell wears off. I'll wait for 6 months or so to see if any horror stories arise relating to quality, etc. before buying one. All from Ruger seem to be in Grey but I checked the Magpull website & they have Grey & Black grip shells for sale for $40 with a link to 'Find Availability'.

Integral flared magwell
Flat face trigger with a safety dingus, that breaks in the high 3lb-low 4lb range
No annoying thumb safety
Accessory rail
Scalloped area around mag release
Optic ready - tapped for a multitude of RDS brands to direct mount
Steel sights, Tritium front, both high enough to lower 1/3 co-witness a RDS
Trigger guard undercut & rounded front, ala a 1911 profile
Well textured frame
Front cocking serrations for those who care
Straight grip angle
Removable & swappable fire control unit, no doubt with various frame sizes, colors & configs to come
Uses Glock brand & Glock compatible mags

If all of these features were in all Glocks, then they'd be a lot closer to their self proclaimed 'Glock Perfection'.
Looks like Ruger/Magpull may have finally produced a Glock the way they should be.