Remington 22 rimfire ammo defective?

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fallujah

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Yesterday I got to fire several boxes of Remington 22 lr Thunderbolt from my MK III. My pistol nearly jammed every other round, failed to extract the shell, or simply did not fire the chambered round.

I did notice that the Remington rimfires were not consistent in the diameter of their shell casings, some being larger and fatter while others were slimmer. I tried to manually insert the rounds one by one into the chamber and some went in smoothly while others could not even fit into the chamber half way. Others I had to hold open the bolt and pry out the spent shell from the chamber with pliers.

When I got home I did some quick search on Google and I noticed that EVERYBODY is complaining about Remington rimfire ammo, particularly Thunderbolt, being unreliable and dirty.

Is this true? Can anyone confirm this?
 

tookalisten

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Thunderbolt is the only brand that I have trouble with in my Mk II; I have quit using it for autos and only grab it now to use it up when I am plinking with my single shot bolt action rifle. I will not buy it again.

I like Federal or CCI the best. I have also recently started using the American Eagle (Federal) brand from Cabelas and my Mk II loves them with no issues.
 

Pat-inCO

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None of my MK-IIs like the "inexpensive" brands. I have been using Winchester Supoer-X for decades without problem. Winchester White Box (WWB) are OK but still give me about 95%. The Super-X can go three to five hundred without failure.
 

BulletBait

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Whether Thunderbolt or Golden, you can hear and feel inconsistent discharge. I've used their CF hunting ammo for years, but will not buy the rimfire. Stay with Super X, CCI or my favorite for value is the Federal 550 carton from WalMart, even though it's gone from $9.88 to $15.46
 

QB

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There's a lot of talk on the S&W forum (long gun section) concerning the M&P15-22 and using Remington Golden ammo. Maybe it's the rifle but seems the Remington Golden is associated with a lot of the problems.
 

Snake45

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Rem T-Bolt is considered the absolute bottom of the barrel by rimfire shooters.

I've had good luck with the Golden Bullets, though. A couple of my guns prefer them to anything else.
 

ddd482

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i have yet to own a semi auto rimfire anything that liked remington anything- if i end up with any, i use them in my single six's
 

CraigC

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I've said it before and I'll say it again. I've been using the stuff for over 20yrs without complaint. These days I burn through 2000-3000rds a month (when I can find it) and most of that is Remington Golden Bullet HP's. My Ciener-equipped Kimber burns through them like they're free, while it chokes on Federal bulk.
 

mattsbox99

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Their premium stuff is pretty good, but the thunderbolt and golden bullet is hit or miss. I've shot a lot of the .22WMR with great success and excellent accuracy. I like the subsonic stuff for quiet work and the hypervelocity is pretty accurate. My biggest complaint is lack of supply right now!
 

fallujah

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Since this problem as appparently been going on in chorus already for quite some time, how come Remington hasn't done anything about it and keeps selling defective bullets?
 

jimd441

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Bulk pack Remington Golden Bullets work very well in my 1022 DSP.

Jim
 

1gunsnotenough

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I shoot at least a couple of thousand .22s a month. The only Remington I have found is the Sub-Sonic that works okay. I picked up a few boxes of Remington Golden and Thunderbolts in a box lot at an auction. They were so bad I would not shoot them in any autos. I had some that would not fire in my bolt actions. I finally shot them all up by putting them in my 10 shoot S&W 617 and just emptying it as fast as I could for fun. And still some would not fire in the 617 even after multiple strikes.
 

xx78

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BulletBait":sjh7skjn said:
Whether Thunderbolt or Golden, you can hear and feel inconsistent discharge. I've used their CF hunting ammo for years, but will not buy the rimfire. Stay with Super X, CCI or my favorite for value is the Federal 550 carton from WalMart, even though it's gone from $9.88 to $15.46
+1. I have had nothing but trouble with thunderbolts. I love Remington ammo except for the thunderbolt brand 22 lr.
 

Snake45

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Y'all who have a prejudice against Golden Bullets, good. Leave 'em on the shelf for me. Keep spreading these negative stories. :twisted:
 

ddd482

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Snake45":3canmkxk said:
Y'all who have a prejudice against Golden Bullets, good. Leave 'em on the shelf for me. Keep spreading these negative stories. :twisted:

not prejudice- actual experience- they just don't work for a lot of people-we have heard this for years-
and yes, i do buy them when they are cheap- but strictly for a single action-
 

ProfessorWes

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I haven't had any problem with bulk-pack Remington Golden Bullets (or the bulk-pack Federals, for that matter) but I've had all kinds of problems shooting Thunderbolts in my Single Six and my father's Old Model Bearcat. Leading has been a particular issue for me in both guns; after my dad and I put fifty rounds of T-Bolts through the Bearcat a while back - Dad shoots it sparingly - the bore was so leaded that I pushed a three-inch solid smear of lead out of the barrel with the bore brush when cleaning the Bearcat afterwards.

I also have a Mark III 22/45. There is no way in hell I'll use Thunderbolts in it.
 

Snake45

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ddd482":x4gz7ryu said:
Snake45":x4gz7ryu said:
Y'all who have a prejudice against Golden Bullets, good. Leave 'em on the shelf for me. Keep spreading these negative stories. :twisted:

not prejudice- actual experience- they just don't work for a lot of people-we have heard this for years-
and yes, i do buy them when they are cheap- but strictly for a single action-
Well, I've only shot about 20,000 of them in semiautos over the last three years, so I'll bow to your superior actual experience. As I said, just leave them on the shelf for me.
 

toyhunt

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So just shoot them up in single sixes. Just use them for that,because its the only thing around now.Still nothing available in my area.
 

Flyfishtom

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Anything with a lightning bolt from Remington is very poor quality. It is so bad that I will not buy anything from the company. If they will allow their name on a product that is this bad tells me they don't care what the customer thinks. I won't support that attitude.
 
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