Red Eagle Standard Type 2?

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Quattroclick

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I lucked out and picked up a really nice Red Eagle 22 (RST-4) for a used shooter price. SN is 38XX. What range of serial numbers are type 2? What are the differences? I can't find much info about type 2 guns. It's my first Ruger 22 semi auto. I have passed up a few Standards and Mark 1s over the last few years, but I wasn't about to let this one get away!
 

chet15

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Quattroclick said:
I lucked out and picked up a really nice Red Eagle 22 (RST-4) for a used shooter price. SN is 38XX. What range of serial numbers are type 2? What are the differences? I can't find much info about type 2 guns. It's my first Ruger 22 semi auto. I have passed up a few Standards and Mark 1s over the last few years, but I wasn't about to let this one get away!

Here's what I have on that one from the Reference of Ruger Firearms...

Type 2 Red Eagle 4-3/4". Has escutcheons in grip, 6-groove rifling and has the recoil spring support in the bolt. Known s/n range 3253 to 3787. Approximately 450 produced. One of the two most desirable red eagle variations along with the Type 4.
If yours is truly a Type 2 with escutcheons in the grip, it is truly one of the rarest Red Eagle Variations, and extends the known serial range a bit. But if its a Type 3 that's OK too...I like them all! The earliest Type 3 I've noted is 3648.
Chances are your gun also has the early two-piece medallion in the grip where the red part of the medallion (the eagle) is flush with the surface of the medallion. Many of those two-piece medallions are known to have broken, so have been lost somewhere along the way.

Yours is also a prime candidate for a question I've had for a while. Somewhere between 3648 and 4224, the bottom of the receiver began to be milled differently than earlier guns, probably to eliminate a lot of the hand fitting when it came to attaching the grip frame to the receiver. The earlier milling type used a verticle miller to drill straight down into the receiver to lop out the metal they needed while the revised milling type used a flat cutter to more or less "surface grind" the metal that was not needed. Am curious what yours looks like if you decide to take it apart.
If you have more questions on what the milling looks like on either variety, I can get a pic posted.
chet15
 

Chris

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Chet

My pleasure, it still amazes me how many subtle variations there are, I know the initial question was asked in March, but would you mind posting a pic or 2 on the milling.
Thanks
 

chet15

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Chris said:
Chet

My pleasure, it still amazes me how many subtle variations there are, I know the initial question was asked in March, but would you mind posting a pic or 2 on the milling.
Thanks

OK, I can do that. Give me a couple of days though...have a couple projects going.
Chet15
 

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chet15 said:
Quattroclick said:
I lucked out and picked up a really nice Red Eagle 22 (RST-4) for a used shooter price. SN is 38XX. What range of serial numbers are type 2? What are the differences? I can't find much info about type 2 guns. It's my first Ruger 22 semi auto. I have passed up a few Standards and Mark 1s over the last few years, but I wasn't about to let this one get away!

Here's what I have on that one from the Reference of Ruger Firearms...

Type 2 Red Eagle 4-3/4". Has escutcheons in grip, 6-groove rifling and has the recoil spring support in the bolt. Known s/n range 3253 to 3787. Approximately 450 produced. One of the two most desirable red eagle variations along with the Type 4.
If yours is truly a Type 2 with escutcheons in the grip, it is truly one of the rarest Red Eagle Variations, and extends the known serial range a bit. But if its a Type 3 that's OK too...I like them all! The earliest Type 3 I've noted is 3648.
Chances are your gun also has the early two-piece medallion in the grip where the red part of the medallion (the eagle) is flush with the surface of the medallion. Many of those two-piece medallions are known to have broken, so have been lost somewhere along the way.

Yours is also a prime candidate for a question I've had for a while. Somewhere between 3648 and 4224, the bottom of the receiver began to be milled differently than earlier guns, probably to eliminate a lot of the hand fitting when it came to attaching the grip frame to the receiver. The earlier milling type used a verticle miller to drill straight down into the receiver to lop out the metal they needed while the revised milling type used a flat cutter to more or less "surface grind" the metal that was not needed. Am curious what yours looks like if you decide to take it apart.
If you have more questions on what the milling looks like on either variety, I can get a pic posted.
chet15

I know this is an old thread but I posted elsewhere about a Red Eagle 22 I picked up over the weekend. I did a search and found this post.

Mine has a serial number of 378X. It has the escutcheons in the grip, recoil spring support in the bolt, but it looks like it only has 5 grooves.

I just measured the safety and the knob measures .250.

It came with two original mags. I will try to get pic's up soon.
 

Quattroclick

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I was very lax about getting more information back, but this thread coming back is a good reminder.

My pistol, 380X, does not have escutcheons in the grip, does have the recoil spring support in the bolt and has a 5 groove barrel. It also has a very flat red eagle which is not really pointing the right direction. Maybe this one fell off and was reattached?

Chet, when I have a chance, I will disassemble and provide a photo of the bottom of the receiver.
 
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