JackBull
Hunter
Live in a restricted state so I cannot get an AR style of rifle. Thinking of a Ranch or PC rifle. Thoughts?
What is your intended purpose Plinking, Home Defense, Hunting and what? Pistol Caliber Carbines are great for most everything except maybe large game hunting. If you want 5.56 etc there are several neutered versions of the AR along with legal modifications like a bullet button or quick release rear pin.Live in a restricted state so I cannot get an AR style of rifle. Thinking of a Ranch or PC rifle. Thoughts?
Share your pain. I'm in one of those as well. I have both. As been posted here depends on your intended use. Pros for me: I can shoot the PC at any indoor range and ammo is plentiful. It is also cheaper than for my 5.56 Ranch. Which would I rather have in a SHTF situation? The Ranch hands down.Live in a restricted state so I cannot get an AR style of rifle. Thinking of a Ranch or PC rifle. Thoughts?
Uncomfortable vs having a flash bang go off in your face.Agreed and even with a suppressor, firing a rifle round in an enclosed space is going to be uncomfortable. Most folks don't understand the principles of a suppressor and get their experience from TV & movies.
While suppressed sub-sonic ammo from handgun or small rifle cartridges seems quiet in an open area, there's still sound--just not the normal harsh muzzle blast. A suppressed shot fired close to or toward a reflective surface such as a wall or other barrier will still be loud-just not as loud as an open muzzle. Even a .223 is 'big' when fired inside.
Several years ago, I was working on a nuisance animal removal project involving shooting muskrats on a Federal wetland. I shot from a raised levee with a thick treeline in the background to prevent ricochets from leaving the property. Using a suppressed 17HMR, the muzzle signature was insignificant BUT the sound reflected back from that treeline 300-400 yards away was noticeable. My 100 yard range has a treeline 100 yards beyond and we always hear the reflected sound when shooting suppressed.
What? There is a mag well that secures it you know.....what's the difference of a shorter pistol mag inserted in a PCC mag well vs a rifle mag inserted in a Ranch Rifle especially if he gets 20 or 30 round mags for it? You aren't stuck with a flush stock mag unless his state restricts them.Unless I already had a Ruger pistol in 9mm, I would not buy a PC carbine. I wouldn't want a bare pistol magazine designed to be enclosed in a pistol grip hanging bare out the bottom of a rifle. If you don't have a pistol, go for the Mini-14 Ranch.
It looks weird hanging out. The magazine was designed for a pistol not a rifle. Does it work well? Certainly. But my opinion (an opinion not shared by all) is that it just doesn't look right. Would I buy one if I didn't already have a 9mm pistol? NoWhat? There is a mag well that secures it you know.....what's the difference of a shorter pistol mag inserted in a PCC mag well vs a rifle mag inserted in a Ranch Rifle especially if he gets 20 or 30 round mags for it? You aren't stuck with a flush stock mag unless his state restricts them.
I use Glock 30rd mags in my PCC no issues.