Production numbers for stainless 5 1/2" MkII 22 target

Help Support Ruger Forum:

Dan480Man

Bearcat
Joined
Sep 13, 2009
Messages
7
Location
NC
Hi,
I was curious, if anyone knows how many of these 5 1/2" target
models were made, and what years.
I have only seen 7 1/2 inch versions.
Thanks alot for any info
 

chet15

Hawkeye
Joined
Jan 22, 2001
Messages
5,965
Location
Dawson, Iowa
Dan480Man":10guv340 said:
Hi,
I was curious, if anyone knows how many of these 5 1/2" target
models were made, and what years.
I have only seen 7 1/2 inch versions.
Thanks alot for any info

Tens of thousands. The stainless Mark II bull barrel was probably the most popular Mark II model, alongside the blue 5-1/2" bull barrel.
The blue MK512 was introduced in 1982, the stainless KMK512 in 1984. Both were discontinued for the Mark III models in 2004.
What do you mean you have only seen 7-1/2" versions? Are you speaking of the tapered barrel 6-7/8" Target models?
Chet15
 

Dan480Man

Bearcat
Joined
Sep 13, 2009
Messages
7
Location
NC
Oops sorry.
Yeah I was refering to the tapered barrel versions.
I re-looked at my old gun catalog, and I was wrong, you
are right. They listed the target at 6.8 inches.
Dont know where I got 7.5 from.
I was told at my gun store that the bull barrel model was called that,
and not "target".
So I didn't realize there were bull barrel "target"s. That is
good info. I am new at the Ruger 22auto buisness.
Anyway, I have a chance to buy a full stainless 5.5 inch tapered barrel version MkII target with thumbrest grip.
I couldn't find any data on it in my old gun magazines catalogs that go back to 1998.
Thanks for any more info!
 

chet15

Hawkeye
Joined
Jan 22, 2001
Messages
5,965
Location
Dawson, Iowa
Ruger didn't make a tapered 5-1/2" Mark II, but they did make some 5-1/4" tapered barrel Mark II's which are pretty scarce. These are called the MK-514 and KMK-514 and Ruger only made a few thousand of each. There was also a stainless 22/45 version with 5-1/4" barrel called the KP514 and it is also just as scarce.
Ruger originally brought out the 5-1/4" tapered barrel in 1952 with their Mark I series, but they didn't sell too well so dropped the model in 1955. It made its reappearance with the Mark II in 1990 but again only lasted for a few years.
Chet15
 

Dan480Man

Bearcat
Joined
Sep 13, 2009
Messages
7
Location
NC
Thanks alot for the info.
The gun was offered to me as a 5.5 inch, but it is probably a 5.25 inch.
Hard to eyeball that.
I couldnt find any exact model number on it anywhere, but it sounds like
what you described.
I would guess it is from the early 90s. It has writing on the left side of the
barrel. It also has wooden thumb rest grips like a friends long barrel target MKII from that era.
Ive always been a revolver guy, and own 3 other Rugers,
so this will be my first 22auto.
I'll try to post a picture of them when I figure that out.
Thanks again,
 

Dan480Man

Bearcat
Joined
Sep 13, 2009
Messages
7
Location
NC
The owner brought the Ruger over this morning, and surprised me when
he said he found the original box. The box shows it as a KMK-514.
If I would have had that box and number, I could have searched for
data with that info!
Oh well,
Thanks alot for helping me!
 

street

Hunter
Joined
Jan 10, 2008
Messages
2,455
Location
Vinton, VA
chet15":1nlu7ajm said:
Ruger originally brought out the 5-1/4" tapered barrel in 1952 with their Mark I series, but they didn't sell too well so dropped the model in 1955.
Chet15


Here is what the Old Model T-514 looks like. This variation is the rare Tapered Ear.


374165664.jpg


374165661.jpg
 

Deepercreek

Bearcat
Joined
Aug 9, 2009
Messages
2
Maybe one of you knowledgeable MarkII experts can help me out. Recently picked up these 2 Mark II's at an estate sale. They are both NIB and the box has them listed as KMK678G, Model 00185. I have found this model on line with a 6 7/8 barrel, both these pistols have 5 1/2" bull barrels. Both are stainless, both have Government Target Model on the right rear side of the receiver. Left rear just says "Mark II Target" Were these special ordered maybe? I sent a note to Ruger just today, figured maybe one of you guys will know the answer here. Ser Number 218-88XXX. Any help is appreciated.
 

captainkirk

Blackhawk
Joined
Jul 30, 2002
Messages
538
Location
Abilene, TX
These are stainless "government" models and they do indeed have 6 7/8" barrels. Note the difference in length between yours and the 5 1/4" above. I think you are neglecting the barrel length inside the receiver which would add to the overall length. I hope you got a good deal on those pistols, they are top notch and is somewhat uncommon (for me at least) to see that variant in stainless.

captainkirk
 

Deepercreek

Bearcat
Joined
Aug 9, 2009
Messages
2
I did measure from the front of the receiver, did not consider the remaining portion of the barrel. They were listed as 5 1/2's when I picked them up........naturally I couldn't find any information on them. That makes sense now. Appreciate the help.
 

Chief Engineer

Bearcat
Joined
May 12, 2008
Messages
18
Location
Maine
chet15":vwpesq0r said:
Ruger didn't make a tapered 5-1/2" Mark II, but they did make some 5-1/4" tapered barrel Mark II's which are pretty scarce. These are called the MK-514 and KMK-514 and Ruger only made a few thousand of each. There was also a stainless 22/45 version with 5-1/4" barrel called the KP514 and it is also just as scarce.
Ruger originally brought out the 5-1/4" tapered barrel in 1952 with their Mark I series, but they didn't sell too well so dropped the model in 1955. It made its reappearance with the Mark II in 1990 but again only lasted for a few years.
Chet15

I have one of the 5 1/4" tapered barrel mk II's. Jan 1991. I find it interesting that my Blue Book doesn't show an increase in value for these, but a 100% markup for the 5 1/4 in the Mark I.
Chief
 

street

Hunter
Joined
Jan 10, 2008
Messages
2,455
Location
Vinton, VA
Chief Engineer":1kzv55g2 said:
chet15":1kzv55g2 said:
Ruger didn't make a tapered 5-1/2" Mark II, but they did make some 5-1/4" tapered barrel Mark II's which are pretty scarce. These are called the MK-514 and KMK-514 and Ruger only made a few thousand of each. There was also a stainless 22/45 version with 5-1/4" barrel called the KP514 and it is also just as scarce.
Ruger originally brought out the 5-1/4" tapered barrel in 1952 with their Mark I series, but they didn't sell too well so dropped the model in 1955. It made its reappearance with the Mark II in 1990 but again only lasted for a few years.
Chet15

I have one of the 5 1/4" tapered barrel mk II's. Jan 1991. I find it interesting that my Blue Book doesn't show an increase in value for these, but a 100% markup for the 5 1/4 in the Mark I.
Chief


There are way too many variation and way too many brands of guns for The Blue Book to have the correct price for every gun. If you want to know the price for a Ruger, you need to look at something that specializes in Rugers. I would suggest the RENE. Here is the link:

http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=30544
 

Chief Engineer

Bearcat
Joined
May 12, 2008
Messages
18
Location
Maine
You are correct on the Blue Book. It can however be a double edged sword.
The Blue book is the Bible for all the gun shops in my area. Because of this, I was able to recently purchase this little beauty for $160. Had It shown any up-value, I wouldn't have done so well.

Chief
 

street

Hunter
Joined
Jan 10, 2008
Messages
2,455
Location
Vinton, VA
Chief Engineer":1ij58i5v said:
You are correct on the Blue Book. It can however be a double edged sword.
The Blue book is the Bible for all the gun shops in my area. Because of this, I was able to recently purchase this little beauty for $160. Had It shown any up-value, I wouldn't have done so well.

Chief

You would think that someone in the business of selling guns would take the time to learn about what they are selling. Glad to hear that you made a great buy on a rare gun. One of these days those rare New Model Rugers will go up in value. And the people that had the vision to buy these at a cheap price will be laughing all the way to the bank.

Back in the 70s and 80s all of the Colt and S & W, and Winchester collectors used to laugh at us "fools" running around trying to buy those Old Model Rugers. They laughed and said. "That those cheap Rugers would never be worth anything. They are not collectible." Back then you could buy an Old model 357 for $125.00 to $150.00. I bought a Brass Frame 357 for $165.00. Bought an Old Model .45 for $200.00. Flattop 357 were going for $250.00 and .44 Flattops were $350.00. Now look what those "Cheap" Rugers are bringing. So if you see one of those rare New Models that you can pick up cheap, just remember what those Colt, S & W, and Winchester collectors used to say. "Those cheap Rugers will never be worth anything, they are not collectible". Ha! Ha!

Just remember don't rely on the Blue Book to help find a Rare Ruger, you need to subscribe to the RENE. Here is the link.

http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=30544
 
Top