I did not Ale, came like that. I thought they were Colt grips because they were twio piece, but once I shaped them do fit, they worked fine. Carl Schultz is the guy who built the grips for me. I had his name in a previous post. I call him Carl because of familiarity. For all I know, there might be 7000 Carls here. Flatgate Carl is the one who made the large picture. I will get the hang of it someday.lol It just did not occur to me to use his last name again. My error. I have a card of his if anyone wants to contact him. Let me know and I will pm the information to you, or can post it here if anyone is interested. Best to all here, Hank.