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Bear Paw Jack

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Older Texans are armed and ready — even into their golden years. GOOD FOR TEXAS

http://www.star-telegram.com/news/l...e207672179.html#emlnl=Morning_Newsletter

By Anna M. Tinsley

April 06, 2018 10:22 AM
Updated April 06, 2018 04:43 PM


Listen to your elders.

Seriously.

They might just be packing heat — in Texas, anyway.

Texans between 50 and 59 are the most likely age group to have a License To Carry a handgun in the Lone Star State, according to a Star-Telegram review of Texas Department of Public Safety data.

https://www.dps.texas.gov/rsd/LTC/reports/demoreportscy17.htm

Not only that, but around 80,000 Texans in their 60s, 70s and 80s picked up gun licenses or renewals last year, as did more than 150 people between 90 and 97.

"With all the turmoil in the world going on, I think people are more aware of the violence," said Curtis Van Liew, an instructor and owner of EZ Concealed Handgun Licenses. "You can't watch the news any given day without seeing more violence.

"The odds are that something is going to happen to them sooner or later."

This comes 23 years since state lawmakers signed off on letting Texans carry handguns across the state.

Now, more than 1.2 million Texans have licenses to carry. That's less than 5 percent of the state's 28.3 million residents.

That's a small percentage, but it still means quite a few Texans are legally carrying guns, said Marsha McCartney, a volunteer with the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

"I just think we are living in a society where there's a lot of fear," she said. "I don't know who they think they are going to shoot or why they think they need their guns.

"It's a sad state of affairs."

Why Tarrant?

Harris County ((Houston)), the most populated county in the state, leads the way with 165,010 residents licensed to carry handguns, DPS data shows.

Tarrant County — the state's third most populated county and home to Fort Worth, long referred to as where the West begins — is second with 88,405.

Some wonder if the gun license rate is high here because there's so much rural land in the county. Pew Research Center studies have shown that gun ownership typically is highest in rural areas.

"Tarrant County is shifting and changing all the time," Van Liew said. "I've heard for years that the more west you go, the more relaxed it is about guns.

"In Dallas or Mesquite, if you open carry over there, someone is going to pick up the phone and call the police. In Tarrant County, it's less likely to happen."

Another factor could be the political persuasion of much of Tarrant County, which is one of the reddest areas in the country.

"Gun owners tend to be more Republican," said Georgen Guerrero, an associate professor and coordinator of the Criminal Justice Department at the University of the Incarnate Word in San Antonio.

Dallas, Bexar, Collin, Denton, Montgomery, Travis, Fort Bend and Williamson round out the top 10 counties with the most gun licenses, state data shows.

Battle of the ages

Texans must be 21 to get a License To Carry, known as an LTC.

That didn't stop 326 underage Texans last year from applying for — and being denied — licenses.

Texans in their 50s applied for or renewed the most licenses, 61,963.

After that, Texans in their 40s claimed the next largest number of licenses, 60,358, followed by those in their 30s, who picked up 54,380.

These Texans "are still really young and active in our society and they may believe that they are in need of protection," Guerrero said.

Texans in their 60s received 51,776 licenses last year and 20 year olds claimed 37,054 licenses. At the same time, 24,353 Texans in their 70 and, 3,416 in their 80s picked up their licenses.

And 152 people in their 90s received their gun licenses as well.

"The older generations are the ones that are the most fearful of crime," Guerrero said. "However, the 60-year-old cohort may simply be less likely to be in situations that will leave themselves open to victimization."

James Thacker, a 63-year-old Haslet man, received his License to Carry about one and half years ago.

"It was just something I wanted to do," he said. "There was no particular reason."

He doesn't carry his handgun if he feels secure in where he's going — and he said he has never felt a need to use it.

"It makes me more secure to have it," he said.

Men or women?

Through the years, the number of women carrying handguns has slowly increased.

But men still vastly outnumber women in getting licenses to carry them.

Last year, 72 percent of the new or renewed licenses went to men and 28 percent went to women.

"It's unpopular these days, especially at schools and universities, but It's true in two parts: men and women are different, and guns are more a man thing," said Alan Korwin, a gun law expert and author of more than a dozen books. "Even the numbers bear that out."

And the bulk of licenses last year went to white Texans (83 percent).

Black Texans received 7.8 percent of the licenses, Asian Texans received 2.5 percent of them and American Indian or Alaskan Native Texans received less than 1 percent.

Nearly 6 percent were multi-racial or listed other/unknown as their race, statistics show.

Getting a license

Handguns weren't legally allowed to be carried in Texas until 1995, when the state Legislature passed a law letting gun owners carry concealed handguns in many areas of the state.

By 2016, the Legislature allowed Texans who are licensed — which means they have a clear criminal record and no record of mental illness — to openly carry handguns across the state except in certain areas. Other laws have gone into effect since then, including allowing the concealed carry of handguns on college campuses.

To get a license, Texans must be 21, have lived in the state for at least six months, have passed a background check for mental and criminal histories and have no felony convictions. They can’t be chemically dependent or delinquent on taxes or child support. Texans with documented psychiatric problems such as schizophrenia, bipolar disorder and anger disorders, are not eligible.

Each permit is good for four years at first and then for five years after each renewal.

Until recently, the cost to get a permit was $140 and the renewal was $70. A bill in 2017 dropped both of those amounts to $40 as of Sept. 1, 2017.

Accountability

Van Liew has been teaching LTC classes for eight years and has seen enrollment go up and down.

April to October is generally the slowest time of the year as people finish school, take vacations, even relocate. Demand usually rises again around September or October.

"Most people say it's a sense of becoming more responsible for their own safety," Van Liew said. "Let's be real. Police cannot protect all the people all the time."

"How many times have the police stopped something from happening to you? Or do you call them after something happens?" he asked. "People feel the need to be more prepared to defend themselves, knowing that something could happen and there might be no one else around to help."
 

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Nothing surprising here. The longer you live, the more you learn. You learn what works, and what doesn't. You lose your youthful idealism (foolishness) and become more conservative (realistic). You lose the sense of invulnerability that goes with youth, and recognize that you might just need an edge when dealing with unpleasant people.
 

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My Daughter issues the purchase and CCW permits through her job in the county Sheriff's office. She sees face to face every permittee and has some interesting comments about such.
She says younger men "think" they know more than they do, older men most likely know more than they tell, older females tend to only know certain things about guns/shooting, and such, and younger females are in the minority and don't say much(cause they don't think about much beyond their phone).
Considering Daughter is solidly in the latter group, it seems she doesn't have a high opinion of her peers. I suspect she only tells as much as is required for her work so she doesn't give the younger Deputies an inferiority complex. I took her to the back yard range Sunday and she fired 3 shots with my little 22/45 (2 hits on the 50 yard 4" swingers and one on the 100 yard 8") said she was done and laid it down.
 

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People that do statistic work and surveys are experts at making the results read close to the outcome they want. For instance that breakdown percentage of what races got permits. How about posting alongside it what percentage the races were of the population of Texas?
 

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Younger so called men under 40 don't have a pair so they should not have a gun, us older guys know what's coming and we will do what it takes to stop it and to protect our family's.
 

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Bear Paw Jack said:
http://www.star-telegram.com/news/l...e207672179.html#emlnl=Morning_Newsletter

And the bulk of licenses last year went to white Texans (83 percent)

Black Texans received 7.8 percent of the licenses, Asian Texans received 2.5 percent of them and American Indian or Alaskan Native Texans received less than 1 percent.

Nearly 6 percent were multi-racial or listed other/unknown as their race, statistics show.

Hispanics are included in the "white" numbers listed above. I was interested to know how many of the whites were also hispanic.
 

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Pat-inCO said:
Doesn't have age included, but here is how Texas compares to the rest of the U.S.

https://www.gunstocarry.com/concealed-carry-statistics/
Really not surprised to see Florida at the head of the list. Florida is not all gangbangers or undesirables. Permit carriers cover the state north to south, but I would wager that north and northwest Fla have the most permits.
 

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"Hispanics are included in the "white" numbers listed above. I was interested to know how many of the whites were also hispanic."

This is an uncommon situation in the Mid West but it does occur. Typical "white guy" appearance with a surname more typical of a Hispanic who claims Hispanic racial designation. In the few instances I've encountered, there was a reason for the choice. Some government programs favor minorities and having a justifiable claim to such minority allows lower interest rates, preferential program inclusions, or outright free participation in some programs.
 

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I am 82, disabled, had an LTC since they came out over 25 yrs ago. Initially I got a license because I wanted to support the program in Texas, and I wanted the security of having an LTC if needed. As for carrying, rather carry and not need it, than need it and not have it. My ranch is 60 miles away. If I break down on the road, I immediately become a potential victim. Am not going to be a willing victim.
 
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