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Instead of volleyball we should be teaching young women martial arts, in school. Instead of basketball we should offer high quality marksmanship training.
I couldn't agree more! My middle daughter is dead set that her 2 kids, 5 and 7, get their black belts, and it's not an option! They're about 18+ months in. I'll deal with the shooting aspect sooner than later.
 

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Here's another very similar case where the good guy shot the bad guy and gave the folks robbed their money back. He left the scene, the robber will soon be buried.

Houston robbery suspect shot to death by customer in taqueria on Gessner, police say

 
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Is there actually a law on the books in Texas that makes it a crime to leave after you shoot somebody?
Not sure about here in Michigan, car accidents with over a certain amount of damage or personal injuries you need to stay. Wonder about a
legit self defense shoot....have to look it up?
 

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Here's another very similar case where the good guy shot the bad guy and gave the folks robbed their money back. He left the scene, the robber will soon be buried.

Houston robbery suspect shot to death by customer in taqueria on Gessner, police say

That’s a good story, hopefully the hero of the day will get the key to the city and not time in a cell. The thing that concerns me, the skell is dead and the police don’t know if the firearm used in the robberies is real or not? That’s very concerning that the authorities might be playing games. Hope the gentleman lawyers up fast
 

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Now no one was murdered in this story, rendered unconscious, most certainly. We all know there is no such thing as not being video monitored while out and about shopping anymore. The owner has this place covered including the parking lot like a blanket.

As far as rendering first aid, this is a busy place during the day, so said thug want to be didn't lay there long before discovered.

In this story the Po-Pos were called and on seen. They determined that something wasn't quite right with the appearance of this young man. One officer recognized this very young knife wielding kid. As it turns out this little pillar of the community has had 8 trips to the Juvenile center starting at 11 years old now 13. (Now just wonder what your life would be like having a son like this to deal with.) Being the good policemen they are, a visit inside the market and a look see at the afternoon recorded video revealed a great deal of information. Everybody on the seen at the time is gonna get questioned and did.

Now imagine yourself back at the being walking into this situation, just having a split second to decide if you should put a stop to this by whatever means. While that sobering thought was going through your mind, suddenly this 40ish year old woman pulls off some Bruce Lee moves and renders this little thug unconscious . Now suddenly adjust yourself to this adrenalin rush you just went through.

For the real kicker, imagine yourself being in the shoes of this 40ish year old women being held at knife point, Having this little thug screaming at you to give it up. Imagine yourself taking a blackjack and working this little chit bird over and leaving and lying unconscious in a parking lot.

Now imagine this is your own son you just dealt with. Man oh man.....

To be continued....
 

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So you let an old lady commit murder and leave before law enforcement arrives; I SURE hope and pray you don't live in my neighborhood OR State.
POOR citizens are defined by your reactions.

You should have at LEAST gotten the plate number on her auto and waited for the police to report it; you can always claim she was "defending herself" EXCEPT for the last two blows.
A 40 year old woman is an old lady? There was no murder committed!
 
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It sounds to me like it happened so fast there was no time to intervene and I will have to say it would probably be a bad decision to try and stop some middle aged woman swinging a black jack at least for the average untrained person. she being in an attack mode could very easily think you were backing up the perp on the ground. I think she was wrong to leave the scene, the prudent thing once the threat was down and the scene secured would be to direct someone to call both the police and an ambulance and try to give medical assistance. The last time I took a force on force class it was directed more toward what one should do after an event than actually how to respond to a deadly force encounter.
 
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Now let's just say someone standing behind "you" speaks up and says do you see that !!!! And let's say your remark back was "you" didn't see nothing at all and proceeded to your truck to drive away.

What kind of person would just walk away on both sides of this story ?
To answer the above question ... the vast majority of the "I just don't want to get involved" individuals. It is the 'code of the street' in Baltimore :
"I didn't see nothin.". Fear of retaliation or requiring them to actually face the one they saw involved and say so in court.
 
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you only get involved if it will do good. In this case the good was already done. Getting involved was not going to make the outcome any better.

Doing the right thing is not always easy, in some cases doing the right thing isn’t even the right thing to do.

Morals and legality make for some tricky decisions
 

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Is there actually a law on the books in Texas that makes it a crime to leave after you shoot somebody?
Not sure about here in Michigan, car accidents with over a certain amount of damage or personal injuries you need to stay. Wonder about a
legit self defense shoot....have to look it up?
The handgun classes in Tennessee advise to leave the scene "if you feel in danger of retaliation and notify the police that you have done so." It is legal to go to a "safe place." It is considered probable that in any robbery or kidnapping attempt, the perpetrator may have companions close by.

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You were walking out of your local hometown meat market with the dreams of cast iron cooking filets for dinner.

Let's set the stage, this small southern town meat market has been in business for years. The clientele is from the well to do, to the folks that use their Govt food cards. Regardless the meat and pork products are top drawer.

Now just suppose you were walking out of the Market and you were suddenly confronted with a OH CHIT moment right in front of you. Right there a very young man was screaming to a 40ish year old women to give it up, give it the F up B !!!! Holding a good size knife. Now suppose this lady started reaching into her pocket book/purse/bag. And all the while "you" thinking, should "you" make a move to stop this. Suddenly the 40ish year old women produces a flip/blackjack and makes a substantial blow to the side of this young man's head. Let's say as he was going down and she then got a solid lick to the back of this young man's head as he was eating pavement. Then to top it off let's say this 40ish year old women bent over and collected said knife and placed one more maximum blow to said young man's head.

Now let's say this 40ish year old women proceeded to her vehicle gets gets in and drives away at a very normal pace, as if nothing at all happened.

Now let's just say someone standing behind "you" speaks up and says do you see that !!!! And let's say your remark back was "you" didn't see nothing at all and proceeded to your truck to drive away.

What kind of person would just walk away on both sides of this story ?
SMART ones.
 
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