New to single actions-New Vaquero questions

[happyskeeter]

Just got my stainless New Vaquero 45LC today. The gun dealer sold me a box of +P Corbons and I just wanted to confirm +P's are safe to shoot in this model.

Also noticed that my trigger finger can get pinched when cycling the action as the trigger resets, (in the area in the frame where the top of the trigger goes into the frame). Any easy fix for this?

Can someone suggest a good place to get a cowboy style holster/belt with cartridge loops for this model. I do not want junk but also do not want to pay an arm and leg. Who has the best value for the buck?

I really wanted a Colt SAA but I think I would be afraid to really use it where as this Ruger looks better with use, to me. Just want to add a set of faux Ivory grips or maybe a set of stag grips if they are under $100. Anyone know of a good place to buy these?

Thanks for any replies.

 

[Rclark]

The gun dealer sold me a box of +P Corbons and I just wanted to confirm +P's are safe to shoot in this model.

See here for your answer: http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=48978

The short answer is 'NO' from that thread.

 

[texaswheelgunner]

Go ahead and start saving for that Colt. You most likely won't be happy 'till you have one even it is just to lock away in your safe. But, I'm like you in that I'd rather have a Ruger to shoot. Some day you'll have the Ruger AND the Colt and you'll be happy.

 

[StonewallRuger]

Sackpeterson.com

Stag grips.

Welcome to the forum!

 

[happyskeeter]

I just wanted to add that the 45Colt +P ammo the dealer sold me was the 200gr JHP Corbon listed at 1100 fps and with 537 ft/lbs of energy. This is not the really hot 700 ft/lbs plus loads.
Would this be safe to use?
The link above is confusing because they are talking about the hotter Corbon's or the Buffalo Bore ammo.

 

[texaswheelgunner]

That still sounds a little too warm to me to use either in a Colt Single Action or the New Vaquero.....but that's just my opinion. I think the New Vaquero can handle it but I wouldn't make it a steady diet for sure.

 

[lovesrugers]

Well you could always check with Cor-Bon. According to them no that ammo may not be safe in your New Vaquero. Here is the actual statement from the cor-bon faq's page which is found Here:Dakota Ammo FAQ's page

What's the story behind COR®BON's non-SAAMI spec. 45 Colt +P and 45-70 Govt. +P loads?
COR®BON's 45 Colt +P ammunition is not suitable for all guns. It should NEVER be fired in old guns, especially Colt single action army revolvers or clones thereof.

We use these criteria: Any Model gun that is also offered in .44 magnums will handle COR®BON's 45 Colt +P loads. This cartridge may be used in modern hunting revolvers such as Ruger's "Black Hawk", and "Red hawk", Freedom Arms revolver, The Colt "Anaconda", and the Thompson Center "Contender".

Most modern lever action rifles chambered in 45 Colt will safely fire this +P round. However, some of the loads, such as the 335 grain hard cast may be too long to function/cycle in your gun. Our rounds are longer than standard SAAMI specs and as such may not feed into battery in lever action guns.

This cartridge, in the proper gun, makes a formidable hunting load. The 300 grain JSP round, for example, generates 1126 ft lbs of energy at the muzzle.

COR®BON's 45-70 +P loads are only recommended for the strongest of actions. Marlins "Model 1895" and The Ruger "#1" are suitable. Under no circumstances should our 45-70 govt. +P load be fired in "trap door" guns or replicas thereof.

Since the New Vaq is not chambered in 44 mag I think that is a pretty solid no.

Jerry

 

[45Colt_Man]

Based upon the fact that Buffalo Bores Standard Pressure round is identical to the specs of the Corbon, and heavy +P Corbons say they are over SAMMI spec and this ammo does not have that statement. I believe they are safe for any modern .45 Colt.

I wouldn't take long to call Corbon.

JMHO

Dana

 

[CraigC]

Without question, absolutely not!!! Lots of things to straighten out in this discussion. Firstly, your gun dealer is feeding you BS that can get you hurt. There is no SAAMI specification for .45Colt +P. What is commonly referred to as .45Colt +P or "Ruger only" loads run in the neighborhood of 25-32,000psi. None of which are safe for the New Vaquero, Colt SAA or any replica thereof.

 

[batmann]

Since I don't shoot .45 Colt, I am going to avoid anyting there. Holsters are a different matter.
Try El Paso Saddlery for one good price, good quality
Another is Black Hills Leather. If you do an inter-net search, it will get you going. Figure on $200+ for a good rig and that may be low.

 

[TiteGroups]

The "New Vaqueros" have thinner cylinder walls than the original "Vaqueros" and blackhawks, I would only use standard pressure 45LC ammo in it and find a new gun dealer. Good thing you asked here.

 

[GKC]

Here's a link to check out some Cowboy leather....but I warn you, they are not cheap, not in price nor in quality. I've bought some leather from them, and it is really heavy duty, quality stuff.

http://www.cowboyneeds.com/040and041.html


Here's another option...I've ordered a holster from them, but I haven't received it yet so I can't tell you first hand about their quality. They do communicate well, IMO.

http://www.oldtradingpost.com/old-west-store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_71

 

[maxpress]

this is the best price for a quality belt and holster combo. 104.00 out the door. plus shipping and the embosing matches the medalions.

http://shopruger.com/COWS-Cartridge-Bel ... info/5008/

as far as the pinching goes i think you have to much finger on the trigger. try just the first pad of your finger just behind the quick of the finger nail.

 

[jay lavorne]

Try Eagle Grips, They make some nice grips in synthetic ivory. I have 3 rugers with the ivory Gunfighter style and am very happy with them. Jay

 

[pvtschultz]

American Holly grips would be right up your alley, and well under $100. I don't have any in stock, but make a bunch of them every month.

http://www.privatescustomgrips.com/327.html

I'd call Corbon and get the answer from the horse's mouth. THe New Vaquero is good for about 25,000 CUP according to Handloader magazine.

 

[BearBio]

Faux ivory= Western and wildlife wonders does an excellent aged ivory (~$40). Stag from Patrick Grashorn (~$120).

Holster: El Paso Saddlery!==THE BEST for 100 yrs! Mernickle does good work. Classic (besides EPS): try Heiser or Lawrence on Ebay. Also, Bianchi makes a good field holster.

Google any of the above. Good luck!==shopping is the best part. Teddy Roosevelt said we get 3 joys from a hunting trip: Planning, Doing, Remembering=all were equally enjoyable.

 

[Ruger_rules]

About 2 years ago I bought this "Hollywood Western" rig (in black) from Mernickle of NV for one of my 45LC New Vaqueros and am thoroughly pleased with the product and price

http://www.mernickleholsters.com/hw/hw8r1.html

You'll see they also have more traditional Cowboy rigs.

 

[M'BOGO]

Ruger is chambering the New Vaquero in .45 with a .45 ACP cylinder. The .45 ACP +P will do about 1000-1100 fps with a 200 grn slug. There are .45 Colt loads with a 250-270 slug that will do about 1000 fps, that are in safe pressure ranges. This all sounds reasonable to me.

I personally would call Corbon, if all is good, hold those back for serious "SOCIAL" purposes.

Always better to be safe than sorry

 

[maxpress]

Ruger is chambering the New Vaquero in .45 with a .45 ACP cylinder. The .45 ACP +P will do about 1000-1100 fps with a 200 grn slug. There are .45 Colt loads with a 250-270 slug that will do about 1000 fps, that are in safe pressure ranges. This all sounds reasonable to me.

I personally would call Corbon, if all is good, hold those back for serious "SOCIAL" purposes.

Always better to be safe than sorry

where r u seeing this at? i have been waiting for them to do this for a long time and will buy one as soon as they hit the market.
combed through the ruger site and cant find it.

 

[Driftwood Johnson]

Ruger is chambering the New Vaquero in .45 with a .45 ACP cylinder. The .45 ACP +P will do about 1000-1100 fps with a 200 grn slug. There are .45 Colt loads with a 250-270 slug that will do about 1000 fps, that are in safe pressure ranges. This all sounds reasonable to me.

I personally would call Corbon, if all is good, hold those back for serious "SOCIAL" purposes.

Always better to be safe than sorry

Howdy

Where did you get this information? I just checked Ruger's website, and they still only list the New Vaquero chambered for either 357 Mag or 45 Colt. No convertibles with a 45 ACP cylinder. Now with the 'original model' Vaquero Ruger did offer a convertible model with a 45 Colt and 45 ACP cylinder. No different really than the convertible Blackhawk that I bought way back in 1975 with a 45 Colt and 45 ACP cylinder. But these were larger guns with larger cylinders and thicker chamber walls than the New Vaquero. But so far there is no offering of a 45 ACP cylinder for the New Vaquero that I can see.

As for listing bullet weight and velocity, as I have said over and over again on these forums, such information is useless. Bullet weight and velocity does not indicate pressure, and it is pressure that blows up guns. One recipe for a 250 grain slug at 1000 fps may be within SAAMI specs (but I doubt it) while another recipe may be right over the top with the same ballistics.

Ruger has been adamant that the New Vaquero should only be shot with SAAMI spec ammo, I don't know why shooters keep trying to push this envelope.