I've mentioned I gave a BIL one of my 4" Security Sixes blue. The guy didn't even have a handgun. However I decided I needed to replace that one. A friend was selling one of his for a reasonable price and I had to have it. It came with hand filling Pachmayers. I've got an extra set of factory grips as well, so I'm set. Also have a couple or so of the stainless models. It just doesn't get any better than this. They are just handy when it comes to size, weight and durability.