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Those are some great pistols!

@MaxMan you say the gun in the top picture is CO2. You mean with those air cartridges? Does it fit into the cylinder under the barrel? How many rounds can you get per CO2 cartridge?

Looks like a great gun! Congrats!!
 

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I tried to quote a previous comment but was unable to do so. I enjoyed davevabch's comment, "I enjoy shooting it for fun but also just like holding it. Who doesn't appreciate the feel of a 1911?" You don't necessarily even have to shoot a gun to get enjoyment and satisfaction out of it.
 

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I don't have any really high priced air guns but I've had both CO2 pistols and the pump up air pistols and found the pump ups to be more powerful than the CO2 guns.

Just recently purchased Ruger's .22 caliber single pump air rifle. I bought the thing to control squirrels on my property. I was very disappointed with it. It has a big plastic (silencer) I think on the end of the barrel and the instructions say do not put you hand on the thing when cocking the rifle. So that leaves only about 10" of barrel you can hold on to when cocking it. The only way I can do it is to put the butt stock on the ground and push down on the barrel to cock it.

Then the worst part is it's weight. It's heavier than any other rifle that I own. Without using a shooting rest, I just can't hold those cross hairs steady on a target. As I said I do not like this gun and I'm sorry I bought it. Sorry Ruger, but you made the thing. Actually Umarex made the thing but Ruger's name is on it.
 
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The heavy thing on the end is used for balance, vibration and yes you DO use it for cocking. The rifle you have is called a "Springer". My most favorite of air rifles are Springers. Extremely dedicated fan for many decades. The rifle has Ruger name on it and it is a kickoff of the Diana RWS model 34 which is a fantastic German made rifle. The Ruger is made in China. But that does not mean it is a bad Rifle. Ruger put their Specs and quality control on the gun and it should be a nice gun. Use the shroud, much easier cocking. By the way Umarx is a importer

Note: The proper way to cock the rifle is too take your hand and hit the shroud to release the barrel and then cock it.

Here is my Diana Mdl 34 tuned by MZ.
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Well, Mister Know It All, The manual that came with the gun specifically says do not hold onto that thing using it to cock the rifle. No matter what you say, the weight of the thing is 8.11 lbs. As I said it's heavier than any of my regular sporting scoped rifles. I see that your rifle has a wood stock on it. The clunky composite stock on the Ruger is what makes it so heavy. How about weighing your rifle and letting me know it's weight?

OK, right from their manual. That thing on the front is called a SilencAir and the manual says do not grasp it when cocking the gun. If you don't believe that check out the picture of a tag that came with the rifle. The rifle operates with a gas piston that is compressed when one cocks the rifle. It is a Targis Hunter Max. By the way, the manual says for parts or service to call Umarex or go to www.umarexusa.com.

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What exactly do you mean by "You should have figured out how to cock the rifle and you haven't yet"? I start by hitting the barrel to open the action as they say. After that, how many different ways are there to cock the thing?

I have 11 long guns and never had a weight problem with any one of them. I didn't expect to have a problem with this one.

I guess you are telling me to ignore Ruger's instructions on how to cock the gun. I'm just telling you what is printed in black and white and even shown in sign language on the yellow tag and according to you, I guess that makes me too stupid to use the product.

It's kind of strange that a .22 cal air rifle has to weigh more than my Remington 300 mag rifle with a scope. This thing even weighs 2.96 pounds more than my Ruger 10/22 with scope. It just doesn't make sense.
 
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What the hell is wrong with you? This was a nice thread and now you want to start your usual crap and petty nonsense. What do I have to do with the fact that you bought a heavier rifle than you wanted? Why are you blaming me because your have a weight problem? I do not care at all. I am not your Mommy. Quite your pathetic whining and Get rid of the gun if you do not like it. Call Ruger and tell them the gun is too heavy and then get back with us after they said you should have looked at the specs of the rifle before you bought it.
You still didn't answer my question about how I should cock the gun. By the way, I take back the "Mr. Know It All" thing. That was a bit smarmy. I will Quite my pathetic whining. I was only stating the fact that you said never mind Ruger's instructions on cocking the thing. So you seem to know more than Ruger about the gun. I'm not blaming you for anything about the gun. There was just no good reason for anyone to make the gun so heavy. The first and main reason that I don't like the gun is that it is so hard to cock going by Ruger's instructions.

I have a Gamo Bone Collector rifle and you can grab the barrel right at the end to have plenty of leverage to cock the rifle. Just not enough leverage to cock the Ruger going by their instruction.
 
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Yes it a magazine. .22 is 7 shots and .177 is 9 shots. It does not feed automatically though you still have to cycle the bolt.
Dang, I thought it was a WiFi connection with a USB charging port :)

Why not airguns, EVERYTHING else is connected!
 

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davevabch,

I was not whining to you about this gun. My main reason for posting about it here on the forum, is to alert prospective buyers of this product to think twice about buying it. It is still up to them whether or not to buy it. But of course you would call it whining. Nothing I said about the gun is untrue.
 

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Here is my 5G. I bought it in the mid 80's for practicing silhouette at home. Long before they made an airgun category. I set up my distances by score. When my animal count was similar to my BB and SB scores, I shot from there. Years later when they made an airgun category my distances were within a couple feet of the rules. Usually longer. Now it is relegated to verminator status.

Yesterday, to my own disappointment, but not shock, I missed a red squirrel twice with my air rifle at 45 feet. Admittedly I haven't put much time behind it, or any rifle really, so I grabbed the 5G. 65 feet, pop! red squirrel down. I am a handgunner and bowhunter, but not a rifleman. 😁


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Here is my 5G. I bought it in the mid 80's for practicing silhouette at home. Long before they made an airgun category. I set up my distances by score. When my animal count was similar to my BB and SB scores, I shot from there. Years later when they made an airgun category my distances were within a couple feet of the rules. Usually longer. Now it is relegated to verminator status.

Yesterday, to my own disappointment, but not shock, I missed a red squirrel twice with my air rifle at 45 feet. Admittedly I haven't put much time behind it, or any rifle really, so I grabbed the 5G. 65 feet, pop! red squirrel down. I am a handgunner and bowhunter, but not a rifleman. 😁


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.22 CO2 gun?
 
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Just ordered one of these. Should be some indoor fun. (And out door) Light pesting is on the table as well.
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I have the rifle version of this pistol....a lot of fun and very accurate. I may have to get this pistol to keep it company. Put a little more challenge into busting the little buggers that are putting holes all over my septic sand mound.
Using the bicycle style pump was a bear.....bough a PCP charger and that was a life saver.

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I have the .177 Diana Airbug, put a small red dot on it, does everything I need it to! A Canadian fellow on eBay makes improved capacity pellet magazines for them, in both calibers, but they obscure the iron sights.
 
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Those are some great pistols!

@MaxMan you say the gun in the top picture is CO2. You mean with those air cartridges? Does it fit into the cylinder under the barrel? How many rounds can you get per CO2 cartridge?

Looks like a great gun! Congrats!!
Yes cartridges. They go in under the barrel. The rifle I have made by Diana gets about 30- 40 depending on temp.
 

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What is the name of the red dot? Thanks
Okay, to make that work, I took the rear sight off, bought an 11mm to picatinny rail adapter and attached a Sightron SRS-2 reflex sight on it. The Sightron looks just like a Vortex Venom or a Burris Fast Fire III, either of those would work fine, I just got a good deal on the Sightron.

I suppose this calls for a picture...
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Very pretty, shiny air guns there. This is my ugly Marksman 1010 my uncle had in the 50's. His daughter gave it to me. It is spring loaded, shoots BB's and .177 pellets. Inside the original box as a Daisy metal tin.
 

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Very pretty, shiny air guns there. This is my ugly Marksman 1010 my uncle had in the 50's. His daughter gave it to me. It is spring loaded, shoots BB's and .177 pellets. Inside the original box as a Daisy metal tin.
Got one of those too. They also sold little darts to shoot with it. I used the darts in my Crossman pump up air pistol. The darts make a satisfying WHAP when they hit the dart board. But they also kind of destroy the target after a while.
 
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A couple of things I have learned. Diana has changed a lot over the years. The AIR BUD and AIR Chaser are basically the same gun, both made in China. (Not that is a bad thing) I am thinking about the Air Chaser as I do not care about the wooden grip and I can get the carbine barrel and shroud.
Just ordered the Weihrauch HW70 new model and a scope with it. That will set me back over $500. Already have the HW70 but the newer model has rails and the included Pistol Scope.
The Quality of the Weihrauch is about as good and it is a spring break barrel. I did notice that Beeman has a PCP pistol for around $250 with shroud and if you were to get a Pump, it should not be that bad to fill with the small cylinder. A lot more power and able to shoot in the cold, no more of purchasing co2
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I looked at the bandit, this gun in PCP.
 

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