This Single Six has lot's to like,,,, BUT: not all is good! right outa the box pretty crude, hard cocking and a lotta creep with that trigger that breaks like cinder block. But not all that terrible with this 12 shot target at 20 yards as light was fading,, and anymore these old eyes need lots of light,, and then things are still fuzzy, but all in all I had hope.
The new Stainless 6 shot single six Bisley showed up last Friday with a lot of issues! The good was the finish is pretty good, had a little spot that was never polished before the brushed finish on the front lower left frame side,, no biggy, and I wont swcotchbright it, it will stay unique to this revolver.
I always break em down and polish the entire action, pivots, pins, sear's, hammer and trigger sides, loading gate spring and bearing surfaces along with the bearing surface front and back on the cylinder, hammer and trigger sides and the surface that rides the hammer, pawl surfaces, cylinder lock and transfer bar pivots and surfaces, as well as the the cylinder pin and the center bore the cylinder base pin runs on. This usually makes em slicker than grease'd lightning on my large frame guns. I also do a trigger job and settle fer 2 to 2.5 pounds that break like ice with no pre travel.
When I pulled the hammer and trigger I saw 3 fairly large metal chips fall on my working cloth? A new first from Ruger, I have done dozens of Blackhawk and Vaquero actions, and only recall ever seeing a couple with a minor metal chip or shaving inside. These were like drill bit shavings, and pretty good size.
The killer was the grips, I don't usually complain abot bisley grips even though they leave much to be desired on my Rugers, but these are not even usable, way under sized, leaving sharp frame edges well exposed cutting into my hand and fingers, worst I have ever witnessed on any gun.
NOW THE GOOD:: and there is a lot to like.
First off everything cleaned up pretty nice,, but when ut back together I had an issue with something binding the trigger, of I slowly let the hammer down it would actually stop half dropped, I could pound the but in palm and it would fall, but I never weaken a hammer spring at the cost of slower lock time, or erratic ignition. The cylender also was very stif rotating with the gate open and when cocking? I took it back apart and reassembled everything and all seemed fine, but was still binding the hammer and cylinder rotation?
After close examination with the cylinder out I noticed the pawl was stiff and no play in it, even felt stiff cocking with the cylinder removed, so I took the pads off and loosened the screw the pawl spring is loaded with, after about 3 or 4 turns the action and hammer freed up. This was the problem, I am not sure if the single six uses a different pawl spring and pin than the blackhawk, and maybe this has the wrong one in it? was the pin or spring just longer than spec? Was the grip screw longer than spec? not sure why it came this way, but trimming a 1/4" off the spring took care of the problem.
Then I took a set of grips from one of my .45 Colt Bisley's that I had change and put on the little single six, that fixed the undersized grip issue, but have some others to fit permanent to it. With a crisp travel free trigger that breaks clean like ice at 2# 6oz. I am quite happy with the action and trigger now even though it is not as smooth as the Blackhawks in my safe, it quite good fer a little RF single action. I never expected it to keep up with the MKII 5.5" Target accuracy that shoots 1/2" @ 25 yards with quality ammo and quite hard on a pong pong ball at 50 yards. Well it don't shoot 1/2" but I found 4 different types of ammo that comes in right around an inch, and some American Eagle Hollow points that shot 6 shot's under an inch shooting 13/16" 6 shot groups at 25 yards is more than was expecting from the new Bisley without bumping the bullets up in dia., and Wolf Match Target and Extra that comes real close with the extra shooting one group fer 5 of the six shots in 5/8" not 7/8" like the target says. Both run right around an 1 1/4" for all six shots with a group now and then throwing a flyer wild, but usually keeping 5 of the 6 rounds under 1".
After the little cleaning up on the action it's needless to say it doesn't fall far behind my MKII Target. It may just keep up with it once I get the Waltz die and tune some ammo. Oh and with a set of Fancy Walnut, and Black Micarta grips on the way, once I fit them to the frame I am sure it will be quite satisfactory fer kill'n cans tree rats and ground squirrels even if the die doesn't help the ammo, but I have had a lot of good reports, and so far have not heard it don't help. I will report back once I get the dies and grips and see just how it affects the outcome.Toll they get here I will be enjoying the new addition to the safe.
The new Stainless 6 shot single six Bisley showed up last Friday with a lot of issues! The good was the finish is pretty good, had a little spot that was never polished before the brushed finish on the front lower left frame side,, no biggy, and I wont swcotchbright it, it will stay unique to this revolver.
I always break em down and polish the entire action, pivots, pins, sear's, hammer and trigger sides, loading gate spring and bearing surfaces along with the bearing surface front and back on the cylinder, hammer and trigger sides and the surface that rides the hammer, pawl surfaces, cylinder lock and transfer bar pivots and surfaces, as well as the the cylinder pin and the center bore the cylinder base pin runs on. This usually makes em slicker than grease'd lightning on my large frame guns. I also do a trigger job and settle fer 2 to 2.5 pounds that break like ice with no pre travel.
When I pulled the hammer and trigger I saw 3 fairly large metal chips fall on my working cloth? A new first from Ruger, I have done dozens of Blackhawk and Vaquero actions, and only recall ever seeing a couple with a minor metal chip or shaving inside. These were like drill bit shavings, and pretty good size.
The killer was the grips, I don't usually complain abot bisley grips even though they leave much to be desired on my Rugers, but these are not even usable, way under sized, leaving sharp frame edges well exposed cutting into my hand and fingers, worst I have ever witnessed on any gun.
NOW THE GOOD:: and there is a lot to like.
First off everything cleaned up pretty nice,, but when ut back together I had an issue with something binding the trigger, of I slowly let the hammer down it would actually stop half dropped, I could pound the but in palm and it would fall, but I never weaken a hammer spring at the cost of slower lock time, or erratic ignition. The cylender also was very stif rotating with the gate open and when cocking? I took it back apart and reassembled everything and all seemed fine, but was still binding the hammer and cylinder rotation?
After close examination with the cylinder out I noticed the pawl was stiff and no play in it, even felt stiff cocking with the cylinder removed, so I took the pads off and loosened the screw the pawl spring is loaded with, after about 3 or 4 turns the action and hammer freed up. This was the problem, I am not sure if the single six uses a different pawl spring and pin than the blackhawk, and maybe this has the wrong one in it? was the pin or spring just longer than spec? Was the grip screw longer than spec? not sure why it came this way, but trimming a 1/4" off the spring took care of the problem.
Then I took a set of grips from one of my .45 Colt Bisley's that I had change and put on the little single six, that fixed the undersized grip issue, but have some others to fit permanent to it. With a crisp travel free trigger that breaks clean like ice at 2# 6oz. I am quite happy with the action and trigger now even though it is not as smooth as the Blackhawks in my safe, it quite good fer a little RF single action. I never expected it to keep up with the MKII 5.5" Target accuracy that shoots 1/2" @ 25 yards with quality ammo and quite hard on a pong pong ball at 50 yards. Well it don't shoot 1/2" but I found 4 different types of ammo that comes in right around an inch, and some American Eagle Hollow points that shot 6 shot's under an inch shooting 13/16" 6 shot groups at 25 yards is more than was expecting from the new Bisley without bumping the bullets up in dia., and Wolf Match Target and Extra that comes real close with the extra shooting one group fer 5 of the six shots in 5/8" not 7/8" like the target says. Both run right around an 1 1/4" for all six shots with a group now and then throwing a flyer wild, but usually keeping 5 of the 6 rounds under 1".
After the little cleaning up on the action it's needless to say it doesn't fall far behind my MKII Target. It may just keep up with it once I get the Waltz die and tune some ammo. Oh and with a set of Fancy Walnut, and Black Micarta grips on the way, once I fit them to the frame I am sure it will be quite satisfactory fer kill'n cans tree rats and ground squirrels even if the die doesn't help the ammo, but I have had a lot of good reports, and so far have not heard it don't help. I will report back once I get the dies and grips and see just how it affects the outcome.Toll they get here I will be enjoying the new addition to the safe.
