Narrow minded gun owners

[contender]

I truly appreciate the open minded folks here who understand the heart of my first post.

I will admit that I laughed out loud when I read blume’s post. I actually thought about posting a similar challenge on the other forum to see what would happen. But as noted above, I don’t like feeding the trolls.
I did try hard to be as friendly and respectful with a lot of things that the OP there might find helpful. Like here, I wanted to offer answers and suggestions for him.

But Blume, thanks my friend for the good laugh.

 

[bigbillyboy]

I wouldn’t trade a Ruger Single action for a handful of plastic auto loaders. That shows how little they actually know about firearms.

My feelings as well.

 

[blume357]

For those that don't understand....

what I remember was my time was 36 seconds with one reload...

Contender's with two reloads was 19.

I think I have a video of them somewhere....

 

[harley08]

I have Ruger revolvers and semi autos. I carry then both (not at the same time) If you are more proficient with one over the other. Then carry that one. Also practice, practice, practice!

 

[Lt Choate]

It's not just isolated to this topic. Many folks, once behind the screen and keyboard, become "10 feet tall and bulletproof" and they say and do things they would never say or do in person. "Keyboard warriors."

 

[dhains1963]

Every person on most forums is an expert. If you don't believe it, just ask them. It's a lot like work. Even the worst workers will tell you they are the best and most taken advantage of by their employer.

It is very easy to run into jerks on the internet.....most people won't listen/talk to them in real life! Regarding instructors, I think of the old saying, "If you can't do something, teach it!" While not true in all cases, it is true In many.

I never felt safe with striker fire pistols with one in the chamber. I carry a sp101 357mag snub, or my Sp2022 9mm da/sa sig. I agree that one in the chamber is better for ccw, however there are may accidental discharges wot striker fire pistols.

Hated to bring it up, due to the "trigger finger discipline trolls" out there. In a fast draw situation it could be very easy to hit the trigger in a high stress situation. Practice at the range is very different than a 6'3" 250 pound man charging at you with a baseball bat.

 

[lipofsky]

I’ve carried a revolver every day for about 35 years now, like Contender said it‘s personal to everyone. For the reasons I carry a 5 shot revolver is perfect, my wife will only carry a revolver simply because she doesn’t want to deal with the extra scenarios involved with carrying a semiautomatic. I will say that my wife always finds it interesting that she gets questioned about carrying a .22 by men that think she should carry a larger caliber with far more capacity…even though she ALWAYS carries and they almost never do.

My Grandfather always believed that a direct hit with a .22 beat a miss with any other caliber every time.

 

[JBP]

I've always favored wheel guns over semi-autos. For range shooting semis offer a wider selection of calibers but for CCW I always wear a revolver.

 

[maxfam]

Hittman left out the strength needed to rack the slide. I carry (in my car console) a S&W model 60 with a Pachmayr grip that holds 5 extra rounds.

 

[g5m]

Thanks, contender. Good post.
Reminds me of a few people I have known who went into a gunstore to buy a gift or something for themselves and they were treated so rudely by the staff that they vowed to never go back and were even so turned off that they never got a gun at all. I know I have been in some gunstores where that has happened to me. Won't go back to them.
Too bad.

 

[buckeyeshooter]

I carry a revolver 95% of the time. The reason why is I shoot one better. Faster target pick up and smaller groups at longer distance. I prefer a 2.5 inch SW 19 in 357 or a 3 inch SW 29 in 44 mag. If I carry an autoloader its a Colt 1911 in 45acp. I recently downsized my handguns and sold off a Sig Sauer 220, Browning hi Power, Glock 17, SW 40 cal and Walther PPKs. I now have revolvers and 1911 Colts only.

 

[tazbigdog]

Interesting discussion. I wrote a report looking at the advantages and disadvantages of each. This was for enforcement. It was even published in the Journel of Wildlife Enforcement. The report was instrumental in replacing our Smith and Wesson .357 magnum revolvers to Smith and Wesson 9mm semiautomatics.

I love them both. Even when we made the switch, I still carried a Colt Detective Special in my ankle holster.

 

[Mike J]

Revolvers & semi-autos both have their advantages. I tend to think which a person is more practiced with is probably more important than which platform it is. I generally carry a semi-auto but have carried a .357 revolver when deer hunting.

 

[Rclark]

We all have our preferences. Mine are obvious. But that doesn't mean my preferences should be every ones by law or social order (as a certain political party is trying to do). I'll take jabs at semi-autos -- for fun, that is just part of being social . When it comes to kids under my supervision, learning on semi-autos is a no-no (rifle or handgun). Later they can make their own decisions... And as above, they are tools. Many have "uses that are best suited to specific actions.". I wouldn't want to go into battle with a smooth bore musket in this day in age....

When it comes to SD, go with what makes you comfortable... When I carry, it is a .44 Special Bulldog. I am comfortable with that. Some others need a wonder-9 with a lots of rounds and magazines to go with it. Narrow minded shouldn't enter into it (especially an instructor). Your call, we each have to live with our carry decision, and the consequences when things happen (which we hope never does).

 

[contender]

Again, many folks here understand the points of my posts. Thanks!

I always stress PRACTICE for everyone who carries a firearm for SD or whatever. And I strongly advise that the practice be more "realistic" to a potential armed confrontation than just standing in a bay, politely holding the handgun in a proper gripping method, & punching holes. I like to see a shooter use just one hand, each one individually, (how many here practice with their off hand only?), odd body positions, sitting, laying down, and ALL under the stress of a timer.
Add in the potential for the limits a semi-auto MIGHT have under such conditions,, (say, from shooting it while inside a pocket, or purse etc,) where jams, mags dropping, safeties re-engaged etc ALL could affect the outcome of a dangerous situation. A revolver offers much better chances of continued operation than a semi.

And let's all consider the fact that a potential armed encounter happens most often, close in & fast.

Just this past week, in Asheville NC,, downtown, just outside of a popular restaurant, around 8 pm, an armed individual threatened to shoot, robbed & knocked down the woman of the couple, while stealing her purse & the man's wallet.

I would prefer a firearm I know I can operate easily w/o the potential for malfunctions, quickly, while in an off position with either hand, one handed.
A revolver fits this bill better than a semi in general. ESPECIALLY if the victim is not well practiced to the point where their reactions are purely reactionary motor memory skills, while under stress.

To dismiss any type of firearm in total favor of JUST a semi-auto is doing a dis-service to a new shooter. That instructor who taught the class, as well as those who seem to hate revolvers etc are just plain narrow minded.

But I still chuckled a lot over Blume's post. I'm no "expert" by far. I LIKE to think I'm a bit above average over most people who carry for SD. I know that when judged by USPSA standards,, I'm just a "B" class shooter across most of my classifications. (For those who do not know the ranking of USPSA standards, it's as follows; Unclassified, D, C, B, A, Master, & Grand Master. I'm "middle of the pack" so to speak. But I always work at getting better, and I try & shoot often enough to keep my motor memory skills functioning properly,, just in case I ever have to use them. I like to say; "I'm just an old, fat guy who tries hard."

But to dismiss a revolver,, in the manner that others seem to do,, well, again, just narrow minded.

 

[Hvymax]

Revolvers.
Mag is always in gun.
Mag is always loaded.
Safety is never on.
Always one in the chamber.
Limp wristing is no problem.
Never FTF.
Never FTE.

I wouldn't go that far. I've experienced FTF and Stuck rounds with a revolver. The Clearance Drill for a FTF is much easier with a revolver.

 

[Hvymax]

I started my career carrying a revolver, a Ruger, we transitioned to the Glock 21 probably in the first 5 years I was there. While now I do carry a simi auto most days I can say with no uncertainty that I never felt any "less armed" because I was carrying a revolver. It is my observation that most of the time someone expresses a negative attitude toward a particular proven product simply doesn't know how to use said product. Anybody that thinks a man armed with a good revolver and a few speed loaders carried correctly isn't capable of getting the job done is incorrect.

I always took my revolver along to IPSC/IDPA shoots. If the S&W factory team wasn't there I could usually win or place.

 

[Hvymax]

This is my new Carry Gun. 2 357sig pushing Lehigh's over 1,700fps. I'll have to run it with the new holster but I can see double taps at 15yds under 5 seconds.

 

[hittman]

FTF = fail to FEED in this instance, not fail to fire.

 

[Hvymax]

FTF = fail to FEED in this instance, not fail to fire.

I suppose that could work both ways.