My job tonight

[Bigbore5]

We're a Consolidated Green Tag Center. We also are certified for Anderson Greenwood, Kunkle, Crosby, Farris, Mercer, and others.

People in general just think of steam as hot. They have never seen it cut through steel. Or know that you can't see the hottest steam. It's extremely dangerous, but often even the maintenance guy who should know is oblivious. It's what you either don't know or get too comfortable with that kills you and everyone else around you.

 

[Hvymax]

We're a Consolidated Green Tag Center. We also are certified for Anderson Greenwood, Kunkle, Crosby, Farris, Mercer, and others.

People in general just think of steam as hot. They have never seen it cut through steel. Or know that you can't see the hottest steam. It's extremely dangerous, but often even the maintenance guy who should know is oblivious. It's what you either don't know or get too comfortable with that kills you and everyone else around you.

Those Green Tags come in real handy. You can just slap em on anything and it's fine!!!

 

[Watertender]

Those Green Tags come in real handy. You can just slap em on anything and it's fine!!!

A Ray Charles inspection... I have seen that done before... I sometimes put entries in the logbook in red to highlight a problem. The last place I worked before where I am now I put an entry in red and was hollered at for it. When I walked out and quit with no notice over another safety issue concerning the boiler room I made a call to the head boiler inspector. It got real interesting and there was some replacement of employees....

 

[Wyandot Jim]

I build and service Safety Valves for a living. It can get interesting, especially when lift testing a valve in line and under pressure.

Our shop is fully certified and licensed. Every tech is factory trained. We strictly follow manufacturer specs and boiler inspection codes. Unfortunately, not all shops do. Nor do customers always follow the guidelines as to operating pressures, especially in paper mills.

I have worked on several places where you have to wonder how nobody has been killed yet.

The Oil and Gas Industry both offshore and onshore have mostly gone to Pilot Operated Relief Valves. It is possible for a spring-operated PSV to not reseat itself after testing. A pilot PSV is a lot easier to test. The boiler code may require spring PSVs I'm not that familiar.

Did you know at one time Anderson Greenwood designed and built airplanes?????
Best thing they ever came up with was their bar stock valve.

 

[Watertender]

Ah yes! The days when you could kick an idiots butt for stupid stunts and the boss would back you up.

Last place I fired boilers they had a 250 Cleaver Brooks as a backup. I came in one morning and a bottom hand hole was leaking. The maintenance supervisor just said that this happens all the time. When I told him the gasket could blow he said that happens sometimes too.

When I had it shut down, depressured and cool I checked the marking surface inside the shell. Looked like the surface of the moon. It took me several weeks to smooth it out, working when time allowed.

A 250 Cleaver Brooks is a 78" shell. I has a pair of 350's at the place I worked previous to this job. They were 1982 vintage and had poor water treatment so they were almost junk. They have since been red tagged. These fired gas or #6, Bunker C for the Navy crowd...

Where I was Chief Engineer was biggest Cleaver Brooks I have run. It was an 800 horse at 150psi. I had one of those and 4 field erected Babcock Wilcox 1600 horse Stirling pattern boilers as well as 4 V16 Caterpillar diesel generators making 4160V. The Stirlings were scrapped and the Cleaver Brooks and Cat gen sets were sold off. They went to remote boilers and generators after I retired. I warned them not to do that because they had better control from a central plant. Now they have multiple boilers and treatment systems that are neglected because there isn't enough crew to take care of them properly. Not my circus or monkeys anymore... I have been called to see if I want to come back per diem to work but since they scrapped the old equipment I am not going to learn another new system. I have plenty of work where I am now. It's nice being a 1 feather 1 blanket Indian instead of Chief....

 

[Watertender]

I figured you as more of a two peckered billy goat........without any marbles

I hear you covet my marbles! Can you read the caliper? They are just under 16mm so what is the standard measurement?

 

[JAYDAWG]

Well...a 16mm end wrench works on a 5/8 bolt head
And it looks like the caliper is on .624 inches.......and what's a thou amongst friends

Do I pass Pa??

 

[Bigbore5]

Those Green Tags come in real handy. You can just slap em on anything and it's fine!!!

Uhh...No. I know if I screw up, people die.

 

[Bigbore5]

The Oil and Gas Industry both offshore and onshore have mostly gone to Pilot Operated Relief Valves. It is possible for a spring-operated PSV to not reseat itself after testing. A pilot PSV is a lot easier to test. The boiler code may require spring PSVs I'm not that familiar.

Did you know at one time Anderson Greenwood designed and built airplanes?????
Best thing they ever came up with was their bar stock valve.

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We are pushing the pilot valves more than conventional now. They definitely have advantages. Most of the valves I fail testing on are due to failure to reseat or leaking on the seat, whether pilots or conventional types.

I don't like repairing Anderson Greenwood valves. The company is too lax about the proper rebuilding dimensions on many models. They work, but are not as high quality as Consolidated, Kunkle, or even a Farris.

If the planes are like the valves, I think I would just drive.

 

[larry8]

You Pass.

 

[Watertender]

Well...a 16mm end wrench works on a 5/8 bolt head
And it looks like the caliper is on .624 inches.......and what's a thou amongst friends

Do I pass Pa??

You pass! I will send you a bag of unused marbles for being so smart... What size bolt does a 5/8" wrench fit? 8mm and 5/16" are only .003" different from each other.... I had a guy who whizzed me off so I put some 8mm nuts in the cup of 5/16" nuts he had to fasten an access panel shut. It drove him crazy because he never looked closely at them. I did a little sleight of hand with the correct ones hidden in my hand and told him he wasn't doing it right. I put a couple of the right ones on the studs and watched him try to put the next one on. He screamed and flung the wrench just as the boss came by. He got sent home for the rest of the day and I finished putting the cover on. I never let on what I did either.

 

[Jeepnik]

Oh don't get me started on practical jokes operator types will play out of boredom.