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Some will survive, most won't. Skills help, but luck will play a big part.

We need to make sure it doesn't happen, but part of me realizes it is inevitable and probably over due. Everything becomes extinct eventually.
 

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Some will survive, most won't. Skills help, but luck will play a big part.

We need to make sure it doesn't happen, but part of me realizes it is inevitable and probably over due. Everything becomes extinct eventually.
Biologists call that "Gambler's Ruin" from Game Theory. In other words, the House always wins!
 

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Besides loading supplies and non perishables, also have plenty of meds(high blood pressure) on hand, could half the doses if needed. First Aid supplies, including Kentucky Cough Syrup, proven to work on all mutations of Covid so far…don't know how it would work on Captain Trips though.

Nice Captain Trips reference
 

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My son went through SERE school with a group of Army Rangers and a couple of SFOD-Ds (Deltas) (this school was conducted at Fort Bragg) while he was in the 160th SOAR. He described it to me in detail. Very interesting, but not as challenging as his 160th Green Platoon experience - one that included requiring all newbies (officers and enlisted alike) to crouch for 8 hours in a 55-gallon drum full of water, with only his nose sticking out of an opening in the lid to breathe, and run the gauntlet while cadre threw punches (they broke my son's nose during the gauntlet even). The 160th guys were a fun group.

While stationed on Mindanao, PI in 1970 we routinely received requests from Clark AFB (500 miles north on Luzon) to gather local critters to re-populate the jungle survival school (a SERE type school tailored for jungle survival for the pilots and flight crews inbound to Viet Nam). So 3 or 4 times each year we'd have the locals bring their jungle critters - lots of big snakes, monkeys, lizards, etc. stowed in wicker baskets - and we'd load them into our duce and-a-half and haul them to a waiting C-47. Those flights back to Luzon were very unpopular with the flight crews. In the meantime, there was nothing funnier than watching a local walk his pet lizard on a leash - just like walking a dog - to our detachment.
 
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My son went through SERE school while in the 160th SOAR. He survived and described it to me in detail. Very interesting, but not as challenging as his 160th Green Platoon experience.

While stationed on Mindanao, PI in 1970 we routinely received requests from Clark AFB (500 miles north on Luzon) to gather local critters to re-populate the jungle survival school (a SERE type school tailored for jungle survival for the pilots and flight crews inbound to Viet Nam). So 3 or 54 times each year we'd have the locals bring their jungle critters - lots of big snakes, monkeys, lizards, etc. stowed in wicker baskets - and we'd load them into our duce and-a-half and haul them to a waiting C-47. Those flights back to Luzon were very unpopular with the flight crews. In the meantime, there was nothing funnier than watching a local walk his pet lizard on a leash - just like walking a dog - to our detachment.
I've heard that the Officer and Enlisted versions of Army Green Platoon is hard core and pretty tough. Guy I worked with went through the Air Force Academy and went through the OGP version one summer.

The original JEST in the Philippines is now more of an amusement park. When the bases were cut back/downsized it was turned it into income for them. I suppose this was good for the Aetas/Negrito instructors who made a living as instructors for many years. Civilians can now pay to go through various watered down courses. Back when I went through in the 80s you had classroom time before they dumped you off in the jungle. They had a "zoo" with animals/reptiles/birds/insects/etc..collected from the area. The Aetas/Negritos loved showing them off to the class. Now there is an actual zoo and bird park where the JEST training area was. Somewhere I read or was told that the old training area is now surrounded by high fence to keep the wildlife inside....folks gotta get their moneys worth I guess. :rolleyes:
 
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The '80s and early '90s was a great time to be in any of the military services. We had a government that supported us, equipment and the money to make the magic happen. We were not yet completely saddled with social programs nor bogged down in non military BS. The crowning achievement of it all was Desert Storm. Sadly all things change.
 
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The '80s and early '90s was a great time to be in any of the military services. We had a government that supported us, equipment and the money to make the magic happen. We were not yet completely saddled with social programs nor bogged down in non military BS. The crowning achievement of it all was Desert Storm. Sadly all things change.
HOOYAH Chief!....:cool:
 

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Apparently, my comment last evening about you kids' bickering was to much for the moderators.......so lets try again to get my point across, this time without questioning your lack of penial protrusion.

What's next???
"My dad can beat up your Dad" :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Chill.......... You are all bad A** in your own special way

Cheers,
JAYDAWG
Biologist have a thing called r & K selection. "r selected" is based on the growth rate (vs carrying capacity). Species vary in how they approach longevity. Mice reproduce often, live short lives and produce lots of young; that is "r-selection". Humans and elephants and whales produce large young, have longer maturation, and longer gestation periods; that is "K-selection. (Comes from the growth rate formula: Pop-PrT: Population=initial Population x growth rate x Time). Also, within a species, males tend to be more "r-selected" and females are more "K-selected". K- selected tend to be territorial and r-selected (males) are more "pecking order"!

Just saying!!!
 

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Biologist have a thing called r & K selection. "r selected" is based on the growth rate (vs carrying capacity). Species vary in how they approach longevity. Mice reproduce often, live short lives and produce lots of young; that is "r-selection". Humans and elephants and whales produce large young, have longer maturation, and longer gestation periods; that is "K-selection. (Comes from the growth rate formula: Pop-PrT: Population=initial Population x growth rate x Time). Also, within a species, males tend to be more "r-selected" and females are more "K-selected". K- selected tend to be territorial and r-selected (males) are more "pecking order"!

Just saying!!!
Fascinating. Live long and prosper BB.😁
 

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Theoretically yes, with a factory fresh body. I was always confident in my ability on each aspect except wine making.

The head is willing but the rotator cuffs are pretty beat up these days.
 

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Commercial crabbers and Halibut fishers here in the PNW use basically the same technique, they call it long lining.
I use a rod & reel.............:D
California expat, here. I was told when it came out, its troutline, (even tho i still hear trotline everytime it comes around), but you say longline i grok that doryboat reference.
 
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Hearing all these horror stories I'm glad the course I went through was more educational instead of torturous. I guess the idea was to teach useful skills not disabled the students.
Ya know, I asked my son that exact question: "Why so brutal?" His reply: "KNOWING in advance how rough it's going to be, then experiencing it anyway, helps me tolerate the pain. And it better prepares me, mentally, for the real thing." My son said he first learned that lesson as a high school wrestler, then again while taking jujitsu instruction in college. [He was a decent wrestler, placing 4th at the Texas HS state meet.]

I can read about how rough it is - all day long. But learning to endure the pain is quite another thing - and something ALL endurance athletes (and military trainees) are repeatedly taught.
 

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