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During the late sixties/early seventies, SEE was a regular inclusion in AIT. It's was taught in basic when I went through in the eighties.

It's not SERE, which is a stand alone school that teaches advanced techniques. It's that one day opfor patrol training thing they have/had during blue phase basic when I went through it, and later participated in as opfor. It's just a regular training exercise, not a standard class or full course. It's definitely not Camp Slappy I had the pleasure of attending during my training for Intelligence.
 

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I have done a search for any SEE training locations, schools, or courses for each individual service branch (Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force, and Coast Guard). Nowhere is there ever a SEE training or anything else, by that name, mentioned.
It was NOT a school (as I've said many times here!!). It was component of Advanced Infantry Training, like Compass Reading, Orienteering, CBR, etc. Ft Ord had a compound, including a stockade and fake village that was used. Jeeessh!!!!!
 

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I know what it stands for I did two tours in Vietnam did my SERE lev1 and 2 at AP HILL with SOG part of an extraction team and the Navy seals I am just saying I know of no SERE class at Ord. What is a SEE class ? maybe for camping Cub Scouts
Now Hot Dogs and Coke could be for the Cub Scout training.
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Some of those "Cub Scouts" went to Viet Nam and didn't come back!!!!! Some were my buddies!!!!!! You should be ashamed!!!
 

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Again: NOBODY said there was a SERE class at Ft Ord! OK!!! You win! I agree there was no SERE class at Ft Ord!!!

Many of the guys who went through the SEE (NOT SERE!) course at Ft Ord went on to serve in 'Nam (I had orders for the 1st Cav but got a medical profile before I shipped). Many went to Airborne School, Ranger Training and Spec. Forces. The SEE Cadre were all combat troops and ex-POWs, not boat ferryman. My XO had previously been CO at the SEE course and was a 3 tour Ranger with a battlefield promotion!
Still can not find any SEE training. Would you send the links and training info.
I am always interested in these training classes.

Best Wishes
Some of those "Cub Scouts" went to Viet Nam and didn't come back!!!!! Some were my buddies!!!!!! You should be ashamed!!!
As usual you are a great deflector. As I said eating hot Dogs and drinking Coke sounds like Cub Scout outings. No one has even heard of SEE training.
Stop acting like a Drama Queen, you are looking for a way out.

As always

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Still can not find any SEE training. Would you send the links and training info.
I am always interested in these training classes. No, you are just trying to provoke a fight!

Best Wishes

As usual you are a great deflector. As I said eating hot Dogs and drinking Coke sounds like Cub Scout outings. No one has even heard of SEE training.
Stop acting like a Drama Queen, you are looking for a way out. You said: " What is a SEE class ? maybe for camping Cub Scouts? Now Hot Dogs and Coke could be for the Cub Scout training" That denigrated the troops who went through Advanced Infantry Training at Ft Ord and subsequently went to Viet Nam.

As always

Best Wishes
From one of the "Cub Scouts":

Adrian B. Collins


"REMEMBER IT WELL FT ORD CALIF I TOOK MY ADVANCED INFANTRY TRAINING THERE......WISH I COULD HAVE STAYED THERE ....IT WAS AN AWESOME TIME THERE.........OUT OF OVER 400+ SOLDIERS ABOUT 126 OF US CAME BACK
"ACCEPTABLE LOSSES" WAS THEIR EXCUSE" @


Again, I refer you to the TWO DOZEN people who posted they had gone through SEE training!

Also: Post # 81 above!!!
"During the late sixties/early seventies, SEE was a regular inclusion in AIT. It's was taught in basic when I went through in the eighties.
It's not SERE, which is a stand alone school that teaches advanced techniques. It's that one day opfor patrol training thing they have/had during blue phase basic when I went through it, and later participated in as opfor. It's just a regular training exercise, not a standard class or full course. It's definitely not Camp Slappy I had the pleasure of attending during my training for Intelligence."

Just in the last 1/2 hour: (3 MORE positive responses in the last 5 minutes!)

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Does anybody remember the Survival Escape and Evasion "course/class" at Ft Ord during the early 70's. Having an argument with someone who says the course never existed. Would have been for AIT.
All reactions:
]Ken Martin
Did it in 72.

Virtual Reality Check A mechanical hand giving a thumbs up. sticker

Wayne Cormier
I remember it. Had a class and instruction, then given a map and told to get to the pickup station without getting captured!!


Jerol Smith
I went through it in 1969. It existed then


Ron Pitt

Bob's Burgers silly, man covering eyes with hand sticker


Don't need a "way out". :ROFLMAO:
 
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BearBiologist

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Jack Black:

FYI 15 positive responses in less than half an hour!

You can go to Facebook and search for: "Never Forgotten Fort Ord" and see the results for yourself!
 

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I see what you did there. :LOL:
I should have tried the Kentucky Cough Syrup on my first case of COVID. As I recall, I think I DID use a little on my second case... which turned out to be nothing. Over in a day.
 

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Still can not find any SEE training. Would you send the links and training info.
I am always interested in these training classes.

Best Wishes

As usual you are a great deflector. As I said eating hot Dogs and drinking Coke sounds like Cub Scout outings. No one has even heard of SEE training.
Stop acting like a Drama Queen, you are looking for a way out.

As always

Best Wishes
Ahem.... uhh... please see post #81. I think it explains it pretty well.

I've not been to SEE or SERE, nor Ft. Ord. I took an online class that was offered to me that was like SERE Level A, or Level 1, or something. It was interesting. I've had friends talk about SERE, allude to some of the more ... dynamic ... portions of the training. I even had a friend that was an instructor at the one in Maine for a while. I am glad that I haven't had to go through SERE above the voluntary online class that I took.
 

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Think THAT horse has finally died! Good Riddance!!!!!

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On another tack, this thread makes me think of Gary Cooper in "For Whom the Bell Tolls" and what I have read of the Spanish Civil War with all the turmoil and citizens fighting!
 

BearBiologist

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There you go all I did was ask for info.
Thank you, not Sere but a one day experience ending with Hot Dogs and soda.

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I must apologize for Jack. For some reason, if I make any statement, he has to pick a fight! It seems to be a personal enmity. I admit he does get my goat! It's not what he says mostly but how he challenges me!

As I noted and provided, there are numerous people on the Never Forgotten Ft Ord Facebook page who have been through the course.

I also apologize for myself in taking the bait! SORRY!!!!

I also apologize for his "Cub Scout" comments that may have saddened and pained those who had loved ones who went through AIT at Ft Ord and lost them in 'Nam!
 

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I must apologize for Jack. For some reason, if I make any statement, he has to pick a fight! It seems to be a personal enmity. I admit he does get my goat! It's not what he says mostly but how he challenges me!

As I noted and provided, there are numerous people on the Never Forgotten Ft Ord Facebook page who have been through the course.

I also apologize for myself in taking the bait! SORRY!!!!

I also apologize for his "Cub Scout" comments that may have saddened and pained those who had loved ones who went through AIT at Ft Ord and lost them in 'Nam!
I never said AIT at Ord I said SERE and a one day class ending with hot dogs and soda .is exactly what the Cub Scouts do.
I never bashed it .You assumed it and your drama got the better of you.
This is NOT about the AIT at ORD ,But you know this.
Now put your Big Boy pants on and stop whining.

As always
Best Wishes
 
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