Justify This

[jack black]

Yes, I'm sure they do.... but look at the job... I can't imagine the strain and stress especially these days with everyone out to get something for as little work, or even no work. I was in an FBI seminar a few years ago and the agent said all LEO's carry personal insurance because if they shoot someone they will be sued. Even if it absolutely justified the family will sue hoping for a settlement. Keep in mind most law suits never go to court ... two lawyers one representing the insurance company usually settle it out of court because it is cheaper than going to court even if the insurance company has a sure win.

That justifys beating your family, doing drugs etc? I think not.

 

[caryc]

That justifys beating your family, doing drugs etc? I think not.

Wow...WTF is wrong with you? I hope you never get into a situation where you need a cop.

 

[kmoore]

Committing crimes is an equal opportunity thing. The sad truth is that I arrested/investigated far more vets then cops doing what Jack Black mentioned. Cops doing that stuff is damn rare. But what do I know I just went where dispatched, no rumors, computer web site or bar room tale crap. There is no box to check on custody forms that asks if offender is a vet or not. So not any way to track through FBI data base.

 

[JackBull]

Wow...WTF is wrong with you? I hope you never get into a situation where you need a cop.

What does one have to do with the other?

 

[blume357]

That justifys beating your family, doing drugs etc? I think not.

I don't know what hat you pulled that one out of Jack... I was just relating what I remember the agent telling me and how I understand the legal and lawyering system currently... that if a cop shoots someone they are more likely going to be sued and our justice system has to a degree gone down hill since, and here is just my opinion, lawyers are now allowed to advertise. Up until about 1972 it was unethical for a lawyer or a doctor to advertise their services..

 

[vito]

The police are still the "thin blue line" that keeps society from degenerating into pure anarchy. Of course their are some bad cops, and some evil doctors, etc, etc. But that does not diminish the importance of value of having police doing what we expect them to do, even if imperfectly.

 

[jack black]

I don't know what hat you pulled that one out of Jack... I was just relating what I remember the agent telling me and how I understand the legal and lawyering system currently... that if a cop shoots someone they are more likely going to be sued and our justice system has to a degree gone down hill since, and here is just my opinion, lawyers are now allowed to advertise. Up until about 1972 it was unethical for a lawyer or a doctor to advertise their services..

The FBI STATS Go read them.

 

[JackpineWillie]

Help me understand this, you can't eat on the train, but you can poop on the sidewalk??

 

[JackBull]

Help me understand this, you can't eat on the train, but you can poop on the sidewalk??

Very easy to understand, socialist-democrat logic.

 

[Jeepnik]

Help me understand this, you can't eat on the train, but you can poop on the sidewalk??

Yep, but you can't poop on the platform either. Well unless you are homeless. Then you can urinate, dedicate, walk around nude and have sex on the sidewalk outside of the elementary school.

Apparently the homeless figured out if you got arrested you got food, a shower, clean clothes and a comfortable place to stay for a few days. The government in their wisdom, to reduce law enforcement costs just said it's okay and quit arresting them.

Now a housed individual does the same thing and, yep you guessed it, you get arrested. Oh and forced to register as a sex offender.

 

[GasGuzzler]

Because we are discussing facts! Sorry I got you so emotional.

These topics are 100% emotion, especially by the OP.

 

[blume357]

One of my cardinal beliefs is to always question Authority. My nature is to be skeptical of just about everything 'they' tell you. And I know we as a culture are only a slight step away from chaos.... history tells us this. (but then that is me believing some of what 'they' have told me and that in itself is ironic). With all my skepticism and questioning I will still to my end show respect to anyone who has the courage to put on a badge / uniform and swear to protect and serve.

The real answer to the original post was .... get off the damn platform and finish the sandwich ... don't argue with the man.

 

[backelbout]

People, mostly the left, are thinking with emotions and not facts. This allows .gov to grow problems and launder money in an "attempt to fix" them.

Your class warfare statement falls right into the socialist playbook.

CA spent 20 BILLION on homelessness but cannot account for how the money was spent.

Wars- right now on Biden. Billions spent but we dont know what the planned outcome is.

Drugs- Bidens open border

Homelessness- we no longer emphasize self-determination. We allow unskilled to cross our borders making everything worse while lining the pockets of the "charities.

Theres always a new .gov program to make every situation worse.

Yet all we hear is people asking for more .gov intervention.

Yes. I agree with all that you said. It's made to tear our society apart. Not just war.... big tech, big oil, war industry, car industry. The left has lobbyists just like the right. There's a list of companies they BOTH support. They don't represent us trust me. Neither one. Unless you are a billionaire trying to make yourself more money. One of the best ways to take away someone's fight is to remove self determination or even responsibility. Look at the policy and ask who is gaining money or power and you will find way more answers..... for both sides.

 

[davevabch]

Lobby groups are the ones now controlling the United States. Both sides of the fence. They have the power to actually send America into a War for Their Country. Use America Troops as if they were trash and expendable. They are destroying democracy more than any other source. They literally Purchase Politicians. It is a evil circle. MIC, AIPAC, SOROS. We need to focus on Destroying these lecherous cockroachs before they destroy US. Sadly I think it may be too late. Burn the Politicians that take the money and the US would start a true recovery.

 

[JackBull]

So the LEO should just pick and choose the laws they enforce? If people just cooperate and do what they are asked things will go a lot smoother.

The police do it all the time, surprised you are not aware of that.

 

[Shamus2022]

There can be 20 cars in one lane all going 25 mph over the speed limit. It's legal for a cop to pick out one and ticket him. Do you think he should stop traffic in that one lane and go down the line writing out 20 citations while traffic keeps building up behind them? Do you have a better solution?

Actually I used to do just that, it's called sympathetic violations. I most I ever managed, tho, was eight at one time.

 

[caryc]

Actually I used to do just that, it's called sympathetic violations. I most I ever managed, tho, was eight at one time.

Stopping a whole lane of traffic can also be how "pile ups" occur. I don't think it's such a wise thing to do just to whip out your ticket book. Is it really worth the risk?

 

[Shamus2022]

Yes, it is. Flatlanders so eager to get to the ski slopes on Fri nite that they speed thru our villages at 60+ and hit and kill our senior citizens out walking their dog.... and the dog as well. Why don't you assume I know how to stop a line so that they are all off road and out of traffic? After 6 months of "aggressive" speed enforcement I can tell you unequivocally that traffic on Rt 30 proceeded at a safe pace without any further need for intervention from me.... it's amazing how the word gets out. By the by-I never stopped anyone going less than 10 over.

 

[blume357]

Back when I was a bit younger I had a tendency to go over the speed limit... not a lot but just over and be in a hurry. I can honestly say when ever I got pulled over I did not have any animosity towards the officer... It was my own DAMN fault and I owned up to it.

shamus 2022: 8 cars at one time... not that is something... way too cool.