Israel issues Ruger 1022 carbines
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Yep. Very little (positive) out there about it even after 40yrs. I had seen the videos you posted while researching. No real details on the components. Liberty isn't 100% detailed on what they used. Curious about the trigger mods and specific rounds. Wondering if there is different type round for the suppressed versions or if the same round is used in all versions.
I may reach out to some of the youtube creators that specialize in 22LR tactical/accuracy. Be interesting if they could do a breakdown of the IDF rifles. I'm sure there would be enough interest.
I may reach out to some of the youtube creators that specialize in 22LR tactical/accuracy. Be interesting if they could do a breakdown of the IDF rifles. I'm sure there would be enough interest.
Imagine being a DM reporting to your command and instead of drawing a DMR or EBR you are handed a customized Ruger 10/22 or SR22
It's sort of funny if you think about it. In most of the pics of these Ruger 22s you can see they have an AR platform slung or nearby as their main weapon.
Just think how much lighter your loadout would be with 120 rounds!
Although, those BX25 mags are rather awkwardly shaped (compared to a PMAG), and don't really fit into standard mag pouches well.
Iirc, they loved the selective fire mini-14, too, as the ac-556
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We are not talking about the same thing. Not so much the 22.cal as the Target used on. Crowds and those throwing rocks. The public already seems to be aware of it, hence the reporter asking Smoltrich questions to the shootings. And his alarming answer at least to some folks.. And of course his answer was printed in many articles.And I am sure you know the answer he gave.
What Military use's them besides the IDF? I have a hard time believing that the US Military uses them. It would seem that we would know about them. If the US, which obviously has a lot of experience in the Middle East and with Crowds, and those throwing rocks, that if they do not, it would be interesting to see their explanation. I wonder if Ruger would supply a list to where else they send them. Or maybe someone knows how to find out.
I do know that the US has used 22.cal for training, so I also wonder if this was the reason Ruger was sending them out. Many people train with a AR 22 just like myself.
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"What Military use's them besides the IDF? "
And readily admits to this?
And readily admits to this?
In 1987 Ruger made a run of blackened stainless KMK512 .22 pistols for use by Navy Seals. There was an overrun and the extras were sold through the RCA.
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Again, this thread is about the IDF 22LR Rugers. If you want to know about the other uses of 22LR yes even by the US Military just search threads here or just google it. I know for a fact they have been used, although for a different mission.
Can we please keep this thread on track and not try to sway it political because of the use.
Another note. The Rugers were sold to IDF as plain stock Ruger's. IDF customized them for the intended use....and no, the rioters were not just "throwing rocks" but other weapons such as molotov cocktails and pipe bombs.
Can we please keep this thread on track and not try to sway it political because of the use.
Another note. The Rugers were sold to IDF as plain stock Ruger's. IDF customized them for the intended use....and no, the rioters were not just "throwing rocks" but other weapons such as molotov cocktails and pipe bombs.
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For God sake man! you started the whole damn thread with
Israel issues them for crowd control and has used them in the West Bank. There are several whiny bleeding heart ridiculous write ups about them being used, poo pooing on Israel and Ruger, but you can search those on your own. God in heaven what gall you have. You could have very easily presented the gun for a specific purpose for all military Police etc. But NO, you bring it up in Gaza and no one should ever say a damn word. This is not about the rifle or cartridge for it's implied military use. This for you is nothing short of your Politics and telling all others to shut up.
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I have done a ton of research and believe I've exhausted what is out there. Some is very interesting and some just nutty. The IDF are very closed lip about the Ruger's used. The clones that are offered are mostly speculation from photographs. I'd give anything to share a drink or two with a IDF soldier that trained with and put one of these Ruger's into action. More so I would love to talk with the Armorers that customized these Ruger's. Wishful thinking but If there any former IDF folks reading this and want to resolve this fan's curiosity the first few rounds are on me
Have you tried asking over here?
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Yep. Been on RFC for years although not very active lately. There were a few mentions.
Unless someone gets their hands on one we'll no the exact mods and components used.
IDF is keeping it hush hush.....no pun intended
Hell, a non-moving kneecap would be tough for my old eyes! LOL!
IGNORE is your friend! I just silenced one of them! Bye!
I read long ago that they used them to knee cap the instigators and leads in unruly protests
geodan
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Cooper wrote about IDF identifying the provocateurs in a crowd and deflating a lung with a 22 shot from a suppressed 10-22. You know, dis-incentivizing the provocateurs without causing a panic.
Pfui.
And i say again; pfui.
