Idaho rancher killed by deputies over a wounded bull.

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Bear Paw Jack

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Sad deal all around. I don't see how this got so out of hand.
http://www.ktvb.com/story/news/local/201...ounty/75036826/

COUNCIL, Idaho -- Idaho State Police are investigating after a Council rancher was shot and killed Sunday by deputies with the Adams County Sheriff's Office.

The incident began when a Subaru station wagon crashed into a bull on US 95 north of Council at about 6:45 p.m. Emergency responders and Adams County deputies responded and were working to extricate the two people inside the car. Adams County Sheriff Ryan Zollman said the bull, which was injured in the collision, started charging at emergency responders and other vehicles.
"The bull was very agitated and was aggressive to emergency services, as well as the other cars coming up and down the highway," he said.

Deputies were getting ready to put the animal down when the bull's owner, 62-year-old Jack Yantis, arrived on the scene with a rifle. Zollman said dispatchers had called Yantis after the crash, telling him that the bull that was hit appeared to be his, and was down on the highway near his house.

What happened next is still under investigation, but Zollman said there was an altercation and Yantis and both deputies all fired their weapons.

Yantis was fatally wounded and died at the scene. One of the deputies suffered a minor injury.

An emotional Zollman said Monday that his thoughts went out to everyone involved, and that his office took the shooting very seriously. ISP has taken over the investigation to prevent a conflict of interest.

"This is going to be a big hit to this community," Zollman said. "The gentleman involved, Mr. Yantis, was a well-known cattle rancher around here. It's just a sad deal for everybody involved, for the whole community."

Yantis' wife, Donna Yantis, suffered a heart attack after learning that her husband had been shot, family members said. She was taken to a Saint Alphonsus Regional Medical Center in Boise, where she was listed in critical condition Monday.

The area where the bull was hit is open range, Zollman said, and darkness had fallen by the time the Subaru crashed into the black bull in the roadway.

"It's not uncommon for us to have these kind of livestock versus vehicle accidents," he said. "Typically they don't turn out this way."
 

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It would seem that once the Deputies/Sheriff's dispatcher called the owner to "take care" of his bull, the fuzz should have stepped out of the picture(at least regarding dealing with the bull).
 

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Mobuck said:
It would seem that once the Deputies/Sheriff's dispatcher called the owner to "take care" of his bull, the fuzz should have stepped out of the picture(at least regarding dealing with the bull).

They did, till the bull would not allow responders to extricate the wounded people...

"The injured bull began charging emergency responders as they worked to get the driver and passenger out of the car, according to the Idaho State Police, the agency that is investigating the shooting.

"The bull was very agitated and was aggressive to emergency services, as well as the other cars coming up and down the highway," Adams County Sheriff Ryan Zollman said."


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/gun-battle-with-bull-in-the-middle-leaves-rancher-dead/
 

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None of this makes the least bit of sense. It's open range........you have an agitated and injured bull, that according to this report, is thwarting rescue attempts. Why did the officers on the scene, not put the bull down immediately, the first time it was deemed a threat
 

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I agree. Apparently even ISP is having trouble getting a straight answer, on the news last night they were asking for any witnesses that observed this to call and let them know what happened.
 

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I once had to rescue two of my officers who had been treed by an angry bull. I had to pull alongside and let them slip down into the open door of my Bronco. They had been in the tree for over twenty minutes waiting for the cavalry. Had there been injured folks or other pressing matters to deal with on the ground, I would have expected them to kill the [email protected]# thing from the start, and if they hadn't I would have started with that task first.

Angry bulls are big and not a joke.
 

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I can imagine that the bull's owner threatened the officers if they shot the bull. Probably pointed his rifle at them and things when south real quick.
 

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"I can imagine that the bull's owner threatened the officers if they shot the bull. Probably pointed his rifle at them and things when south real quick."

I can "imagine" lots of scenarios. If the situation was so far out of control, someone messed up.
If the bull was being so aggressive and actively chasing "responders", it's doubtful the animal was injured beyond recovery. If this was the case, I can easily see that the owner was reluctant to destroy a $3-4K animal. I can also imagine that it could have been expedient to use vehicles as a shield for the responders. There is just a whole pile of information being withheld(or hidden). It just seems that common sense was not a priority in this situation.
The most ironic detail would be if there was a PETA bumper sticker on the Subaru.
 

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Adams County shooting: ISP seeks witnesses to incident that killed rancher

Fatal shooting may be only second officer-involved case in county

ISP is helping staff sheriff’s office, also investigating deputies’ actions

Yantis “one of the nicest men up in this county,” neighbor says

The area of U.S. 95 where a car struck a bull Sunday evening, starting a series of events that led to the death of the rancher who owned the bull, is open range, Adams County Sheriff Ryan Zollman said Tuesday.

Two Adams County deputies got into a confrontation with Jack Yantis, 62, of Council, after Yantis arrived at the crash scene six miles north of Council, carrying a rifle.

Few details have been released publicly about what happened, but investigators said the injured bull was charging at first-responders and passing vehicles and deputies were about to kill it. At some point after Yantis arrived, the two deputies and Yantis all fired their weapons. Yantis died at the scene; one deputy suffered a minor injury, according to Idaho State Police, which is investigating the shooting at Adams County’s request.

At Yantis’ home Tuesday, a man introducing himself as family member Rowdy Paradis said attorneys would release a statement soon on behalf of the family. He said he was 10 feet away when Yantis was shot.

“They took a family man from the dinner table and slaughtered him,” Paradis said.

Idaho State Police detectives are asking for anyone who may have been witness to events surrounding the shooting to contact them. The incident started at about 6:45 p.m. Traffic on the highway was stopped until about 7:45 p.m., and detectives think there were a number of motorists near the scene who may have information useful to their investigation.

Witnesses did not have to see the shooting to be helpful, ISP said. Anyone with information should call 208-884-7110.

The driver and passenger of the Subaru station wagon that hit the bull had to be extricated from the vehicle and were flown to a Boise hospital for treatment. Their names and conditions have not been released.

The two deputies’ names have not been released, either, and they have been placed on paid administrative leave. The rancher’s wife, Donna Yantis, reportedly suffered a heart attack immediately after the incident. She was taken to Saint Alphonsus Regional Medical Center in Boise, where a hospital spokesman said she was in critical condition Tuesday afternoon.

‘Community in mourning’

Secretary of State Lawerence Denney, who represented Adams County in the Idaho House of Representatives for 20 years, including three terms as speaker, described Yantis as a typical cattle rancher.

“He loved the outdoors and loved his animals,” Denney said. “I know the whole community is in mourning.”

Sigurd Sanders, 72, has known Yantis for 25 years. “[He’s] one of the nicest men up in this county,” Sanders said.

Yantis let Sanders and his girlfriend hunt turkey on his vast property. They often crossed paths in the woods. “We’d be out looking for turkeys, and he’d be out looking for cattle,” said Linda Miranda, Sanders’ girlfriend.

In open range, it’s not uncommon for horses or cows to wander onto the road, Zollman said. He wasn’t aware of any calls about livestock on the highway before Sunday’s crash.

“This is not the first of [Yantis’] animals to be hit by a car,” Zollman said.

Upon hearing of livestock in the road, the Sheriff’s Office will notify the rancher involved, and that rancher goes out to take care of the matter, Zollman said. Sometimes, deputies are able to move the animals off a road themselves.

“They’re livestock smart,” said Zollman, a 37-year-old from Enterprise, Ore., who was elected Adams County sheriff in 2012. “They don’t have a problem catching a horse, putting a rope around its neck and putting it in an open gate.”

The Sheriff’s Office usually allows ranchers to decide whether to put down an injured animal.

Zollman said he did not know Yantis personally, nor did the deputies involved in the shooting, though they knew him as a member of the small community.

“I knew of him. I could recognize him and tell you what truck him and his wife drove,” Zollman said. The department hadn’t had any previous problems with Yantis, Zollman said.

The Adams County Sheriff’s Office has 10 officers, including the sheriff, undersheriff, seven road deputies and a resident deputy in Hells Canyon.

Other than the two deputies on administrative leave, another deputy is away finishing training at the Idaho POST Academy. Idaho State Police is helping the small department this week and others have offered help, including the Idaho Department of Fish and Game.

“We’ve got other agencies stepping in to assist. The Boise Police Department chief offered officers if we needed. The undersheriff and myself covered calls yesterday,” Zollman said.

Adams County covers more than 5,000 square miles and has a population of about 3,800. The town of Council has 800 residents. Tuesday was the last day of elk season in the area and there were triple the number of people in town because of the influx of hunters, Zollman said.

Even when it’s not hunting season, it’s not uncommon for ranchers and other residents to have guns in their trucks.

“We assume everyone has a gun in their car at all times,” Zollman said. “We deal with firearms daily. These officers are very aware of that — that [Yantis] had a gun ... [is] not uncommon. That’s just common practice.”

The only previous officer-involved shooting in the county that Zollman is aware of occurred in New Meadows in the 1990s and involved an Idaho State Police trooper.

“I’ve talked to people who have been here a long time, and they say this has never happened before,” said Zollman, who has lived in Council since 2000.

WHAT IS ‘OPEN RANGE’?
It’s a designation for areas where cattle can roam and graze freely, usually marked with signs warning drivers to watch for their presence.

It also affects who is usually liable for crashes involving drivers and livestock. From Idaho Code 25-2118: “No person owning, or controlling the possession of, any domestic animal running on open range, shall have the duty to keep such animal off any highway on such range, and shall not be liable for damage to any vehicle or for injury to any person riding therein, caused by a collision between the vehicle and the animal. ‘Open range’ means all uninclosed lands outside of cities, villages and herd districts, upon which cattle by custom, license, lease, or permit, are grazed or permitted to roam.”
 

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At least one officer seems to have forgotten that he works for the people, not in spite of them.

There, it needed to be said. Until I am proven wrong.
 

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Folks who hit the bull are responsible for the bull.
Sheriff works there has a mighty large crew,also strange so many outside law enforcement agencies offering to help,send men equipment for such a small case with one live witness who saw the entire scene play out.
To be continued..........
 

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"Sheriff works there has a mighty large crew,also strange so many outside law enforcement agencies offering to help,send men equipment for such a small case with one live witness who saw the entire scene play out."

Lots bigger staff than our county even though we have 50% more population.
It takes lots of help because of all the non-resident hunters who flood that county with all their hooliganism this time of year.{sarcasm intended}
All the outside agencies are there to shovel the poop that will be used to cover up the facts.
 

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One of the authors I talk to regularly is an Idaho native. She claims the rancher was a friend, and that police are trying to cover it all up by claiming he shot at the deputies first. I'm still waiting for a coherent story of what exactly happened, though.
 

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I've read all that I could find about the incident. There is not much published to date.
I expect that if it was a justified killing (of the person, not the livestock), we would have much more in print already.

A justified shooting would have detailed press releases within the first day, detailing the officer's actions and why he/she was in the right, in drawing his/her weapon and firing to kill.

Perhaps in Idaho, the public servants feel they are beyond media attention and full disclosure/accountability to the public when they fire their weapons with intent to kill a person ?
 

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Apparently, the ISP isn't regarding the family member, who said he was present, as a witness...............................




At Yantis’ home Tuesday, a man introducing himself as family member, Rowdy Paradis, said attorneys would release a statement soon on behalf of the family.

He said he was 10 feet away when Yantis was shot.

'They took a family man from the dinner table and slaughtered him,' Paradis said."



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