I think Ruger is screwing themselves by spreading their lines with few interchangeable parts.

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It seems that Ruger is all over the place with trying to get on the MeeToo striker bandwagon. Multiple lines with little parts interchangable ty. They're just flinging crap trying to see what sticks instead of focusing on a solid platform and support for it. Look at Glock and SIG. One thing I see with the Max9 mag is the ability to use single and double stack mags with a simple frame swap. How many half developed striker and trigger assemblies are they going to throw at the wall? If they just focused on one or two frame modules that are reliable with 3 slides and 3 plastic grip frames as well as a few different capacity mags that are all compatible would cost far less and be easier to support. Parts commonality also allows for easier production adjustments to suit the market. How many compact 9's does Ruger have on the market? Do the mags interchange between them etc??? That's why Glock has dominated the way they have. The Sig 365 as well. Frankly Ruger never should have jumped on the Mee Too striker bandwagon when they could have focused on the LCP2 semi single action hammer design. That was always Ruger's thing to do a handful of things well. My Max 9 has amazed and disappointed me at the same time. Light strikes seem to be the norm even when they actually fire the primers are barely touched. Because Ruger is flinging striker designs against the wall there's no interchangeability between springs and striker assemblies. How is the aftermarket going to support new crap every few years? Are my Max9 mags going to fit anything else in the future. I bought a Max 9 based on the performance of my Gen 1 LCP which has performed adequately and reliably. The trigger is it's biggest limiting factor but I have never questioned it's reliability. Glock as well. I was enjoying the Poly 80's because they used a reliable platform and corrected the reason I will never own a Glock which is the stupid grip angle.
 
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What you are saying actually makes sense. I’m sure they have considered the idea of using similar parts.

What is it about the Glock’s grip angle? Is it really that different from similar poly framed 9mm’s?
 
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My wrists are fused at the angle John Browning intended. Glock used the same grip angle as the early Ruger 22's. So in my hands the gun is pointing 25-30° in the air. Not to mention that muscle memory being what you use when that bump in the night happens you want it to be conditioned to the gun in your hand
 

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What Ruger does with their semi-auto's has always seemed a bit bi-polar to me. I first came to this forum because I had a P94. Even though they were bulky & DA/SA I still like the P-series.
Next came the SR series pistols. I never bought one because I dislike magazine disconnect safeties. However, the SR series pistols are well regarded & liked by a lot of people. Then came the American Pistol. I actually bought a full sized 9mm American to be used as a house pistol by my wife. It lives in a quick access safe. While the American is big & bulky I actually liked the interchangeable grip panels & it was decently made.
Somewhere in between the SR series & the American they started doing Kel-Tec clones. Then they went from that to designs that were striker fired but very similar to the Kel-Tecs in the way they are made. I somewhat don't get it.
There hasn't been a new semi-auto Ruger offering that has interested me in a while.
Hvymax I've always liked Glocks fine but I've never owned one. Since the gen 3 Glock patents have expired there is a large assortment of Gen 3 Glock clones out there. If you get the chance to handle one check out a PSA Dagger. I like the grip on mine. I honestly don't shoot it that much but I like it. The only issue I had was the mag catch was very stiff when new. Ironically it feels fine now. I'm not sure what happened maybe there was some flash on the plastic that wore off or something. I can't complain though it is pretty nice for a $300 pistol (I actually paid more but I opted for the cerakote finish & night sights. The only down side is that it comes with a magpul P-mag. I did go out & pick up a couple of OEM Glock mags for it.
 
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I really wanted to like the Dagger on so many levels but the grip and is still like the Glock. It almost seems that Ruger is making throwaway guns of the year lately. All using different parts and discontinued after a few years. Glock has gotten decades out of a simple and reliable design with sensible upgrades while maintaining parts compatibility for the most part.
 
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It seems that Ruger is all over the place with trying to get on the MeeToo striker bandwagon. Multiple lines with little parts interchangable ...

I can't provide a real answer - but I'll offer a few observations.

I bought my first centerfire auto pistol in the late 1980s: a Ruger P85. I liked it; it was more affordable than the competition, it fit my hand well, and it was rock-solid reliable. Fast forward a few years, by which time I also owned a couple of Blackhawk "convertibles" (.38/.357/9mm and .45 Colt/.45ACP), plus a Single Six with dual cylinders. I found myself wondering if I could get one of my P-series handguns to shoot multiple calibers, like .30 Luger, or .40 S&W, or even .45acp (with COAL at 1.135" or less).

Edit - here's an example:

Funny thing - there was almost no info available online, because Ruger owners seemed to have zero interest. I could find the question asked (by people like me ;^) on multiple firearms forums/websites, but the almost universal response was: "Why would you want to do that? Just buy another Ruger in the caliber you want!"

With regards to your points:
1) Ruger has made multiple auto pistol models with some interchangeable parts in the past (certain models/generations in the P-series, and maybe others).
2) Nobody cared.

I'm guessing that, having produced interchangeable parts in the past, Ruger might do so again, if it made sense from the production side of things. But the Ruger customer base has historically had little interest in swapping parts, the way Glock customers do.
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I can't provide a real answer - but I'll offer a few observations.

I bought my first centerfire auto pistol in the late 1980s: a Ruger P85. I liked it; it was more affordable than the competition, it fit my hand well, and it was rock-solid reliable. Fast forward a few years, by which time I also owned a couple of Blackhawk "convertibles" (.38/.357/9mm and .45 Colt/.45ACP), plus a Single Six with dual cylinders. I found myself wondering if I could get one of my P-series handguns to shoot multiple calibers, like .30 Luger, or .40 S&W, or even .45acp (with COAL at 1.135" or less).

Funny thing - there was almost no info available online, because Ruger owners seemed to have zero interest. I could find the question asked (by people like me ;^) on multiple firearms forums/websites, but the almost universal response was: "Why would you want to do that? Just buy another Ruger in the caliber you want!"

With regards to your points:
1) Ruger has made multiple auto pistol models with some interchangeable parts in the past (certain models/generations in the P-series, and maybe others).
2) Nobody cared.

I'm guessing that, having produced interchangeable parts in the past, Ruger might do so again, if it made sense from the production side of things. But the Ruger customer base has historically had little interest in swapping parts, the way Glock customers do.
:)
It almost seems that Ruger is selling throwaway guns of the year that become obsolete with every new version instead of serviceable firearms made to serve for decades. Try and get the backplate off a Max 9 to clean the striker unit!!!
 

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Yeah, it seemed like every time I'd think about trying Rugers latest offering, they'd come out with another model. Some maybe parts or mag compatible but I just couldn't keep up.
In Rugers defense, other makers may have or are still doing this. I just don't know.
Just so many brands & models these days.
 
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Yeah, it seemed like every time I'd think about trying Rugers latest offering, they'd come out with another model. Some maybe parts or mag compatible but I just couldn't keep up.
In Rugers defense, other makers may have or are still doing this. I just don't know.
Just so many brands & models these days.

I find it helpful to look at comments and reviews on this forum, and elsewhere. That's kind of got me thinking about an SR40c/SR9c (which I guess are out of production?), if I happen to spot one at a good price.
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Thank you, but Ruger introduced a new model every, or every other year before The Ruger Forum existed or I was aware of it.
Yes, a wealth of reliable info here & a person could reach back now & learn of all the models. But that ship sailed for me decades ago & I've more than fulfilled my needs in that category.
 

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I'm sure Ruger's bean counters have considered all the angles. Today with computers to design and 5 axis mills to kick out molds the process to make molded metal and molded plastic parts is quick and cheap. They'll make a model for say 5 years then after another 5 years they won't offer replacement parts and you'll have to buy a new gun.
I remember back in the 70s I started working at a company that made printing presses. I was in the service department and it was always stressed that they were in the business to sell new presses not keep the old ones running forever. Ruger is similar in that they are in business to sell new guns.
 
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It's like they refuse to make the LCC available in anything but 5.7 to protect the PC dinosaur. Ruger has great legacy firearms but they seem to not care about everything else. The LCP for instance. When it came out it was like a Kel Tec with quality control. Instead of making the LCP2 trigger upgrade something that could be done to the 1st gen it's trash the old gun and buy the new one. Same with the improved sights. Look at Glock. Mags that worked 30 years ago are still in service. Upgrades are incremental and typically can be applied to existing guns. It seems that Ruger is taking the Apple approach to firearms.
 
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I'm sure Ruger's bean counters have considered all the angles. Today with computers to design and 5 axis mills to kick out molds the process to make molded metal and molded plastic parts is quick and cheap. They'll make a model for say 5 years then after another 5 years they won't offer replacement parts and you'll have to buy a new gun.
I remember back in the 70s I started working at a company that made printing presses. I was in the service department and it was always stressed that they were in the business to sell new presses not keep the old ones running forever. Ruger is similar in that they are in business to sell new guns.
Which is why after my experience with the Max9 I won't be looking to Ruger again. I regret not looking further. A friend recommended it because of the sights and ergos. I'm wishing I would have gone with the 365 now. Even if I would have had to spend more on sights etc. Even the Taurus. I could have bought 2 SCCY'S and been more reliable. I have no doubt that I can make the Max 9 reliable with a new striker with more protrusion which I will be doing. About 2-3 hrs to turn on the lathe and heat treat which was something I would expect from Kel Tec but not Ruger.
 
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Just look at the Sig 365. It's a platform gun. It can go from micro compact to light service swapping a few parts. Everything about it is serviceable and upgradeable. Same with Glocks. Those are the qualities I look for in a gun. I would have never sought out this forum if my Max9 had been 100% just like I had to find the KTOG 30 years ago.
 

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