I’m not quick to anger But this is infuriating!!!!

[caryc]

Still too much work. A fellow named Franklin played with a kite and years later a fellow named Edison put Franklin's ideas to good use.

So, you heft up the big can and pour gas from the big can into the smaller can to use it? How much simpler can it get than to stick the pump into the big can and stick the hose into whatever you want to gas up? Now comes the hard part, you also have to push the "on' switch. By the way, the big heavy 5 gallon can just sits on the ground.

 

[larry8]

Right, Caryc, I just bought that pump from Amazon along with the shaker siphon hose. My 4, 5gallon gas cans for my generator are 1-1/2 years old so I will put one in my car at each fillup, to use the gas up. (I had put in Stabil 2 year stuff when I filled them up). I started up the generator with that gas and it ran fine so I guess the gas is still good.

 

[Jeepnik]

So, you heft up the big can and pour gas from the big can into the smaller can to use it? How much simpler can it get than to stick the pump into the big can and stick the hose into whatever you want to gas up? Now comes the hard part, you also have to push the "on' switch. By the way, the big heavy 5 gallon can just sits on the ground.

Unscrew lid on can (It's in a carrier higher than the gas tank filler). Take off gas cap. Stick pump suction hose in can. Stick pump outlet hose in gas tank. Plug in pump. No lifting, no straining. Oh, and I fill the cans while they are in the carrier. The only time they come out of the carrier is if some one needs gas and I can't drive up next to them.

I also have an electric jack for things that don't require the Hi LIft. I cary an battery operated impact for lugnuts and other things needing to be bolted and unbolted. Simply put, man has invented tools. If you don't use those tools, don't ever complain, cuz no one is listening.

 

[pogomo]

I have reached the age where Anger is not a feeling that I am easy to exhibit. I usually am able to let things that are annoying go or side step them! BUT….Damn the current state of plastics 5 gallons gas containers!! It takes 1/2 an hour to empty half the contents, because of spouts that have to be depressed, safety buttons that must be pushed in order for the stupid spout to be depressed and impossible for air to flow into the tank to keep a flow going! I have replaced spouts with after market free flow spouts, but that requires making a hole in the opposite corner for air flow and constantly trying to come up with a proper seal.
I miss old gas cans!!!!

The government is always looking for ways to save us from ourselves.it sucks.

 

[Swampbilly_2]

I guess what pisses me off the most is the nanny state we live in now!! The government feels it must pass laws regarding gas can safety to protect us, but they don't protect us from the mass illegal influx of God only knows who is crossing our southern borders!!!

That's because gas cans cannot be made dependent on the government and more than likely vote Democrat...once they succeed at giving illegal aliens the right to Vote...something Democrats have been trying hard to do for quite a while. And have had some success achieving this scam in some state elections.

 

[brian1]

I just ordered two racing cans with separate vents…. see if those work

I, too, have all the same issues. I have a lot of old-style gas cans that I keep going when the spouts wear out.

I also have one of the VP racing gas cans I think you are referring to. There are two problems with them. First, they are so tall compared to their footprint that they tend to tip over easily. Not a problem if you have a bunch of them in a truck bed, but just one is tippy, and you have to secure it well.

The other problem is that it does have a vent, but the vent is so close the the spout that you can't tip it up much without gas coming our the vent. It needs to be at the other end, like you mentioned. To fix that, I put a fitting into the vent cap and attached a foot long hose to that. So now the vent is effectively a foot away from the outlet and higher.

For the modern gas cans, there are videos on YouTube showing you how to drill them and add a vent using a wheel rubber Shrader valve. That works, but the Shrader valve ID is very small, like about 1/8", so it doesn't flow much air, and thus the can doesn't flow much gas. What I do is just drill a 1/2" hole in the top of the can at the opposite end from the spout. Then when not pouring, I just plug the hole with either a .50 BMG bullet or a tapered stick. See pic of some of my cans.

I can't find the VP can vent thing I made right now, but hopefully you get the idea from the description.

As for the spouts, there are (or were) lots of places online where you can buy simple spouts that will fit the new threading on the new cans. The *(&^$% government even made the can companies change the spout thread to try to thwart the citizens from getting what they want.

 

[brian1]

PS - you can also but blue colored "water" cans that have a proper vent. You still have to either modify or replace the spout, though. See link. I have a couple of those, too.
Blue "water" cans

 

[brian1]

Definitely a pain. I have 6-7 cans that I use through out the year. Tough to use in vehicles that have the fill cap under license plates, especially the ones that LP cover lifts up like the '72 Charger. Depending on the can, you're going to have a gallon or so left that you can't pour in. Luckily I have a couple older cans I picked up at Napa in the early '80s that are holding up. I use them only for "tough to access" situations.

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I still have one of these from the old days. Best can ever made. Broad footprint, not very tall, very stable, nearly impossible to tip over. Sure wish I'd bought more of the good cans when I saw this crap coming when CA started banning real cans, but I could still get good cans in other states.

 

[B-O-B'03]

I use these. Place the nozzle in the tank and push the button. No muss no fuss. Tractor supply or amazon. They're not cheap, but work great unless you back over it with your truck.

I have this type and you can get an extension tube for it that allows me to empty the gas into the pickup, if it is getting too old.
It works pretty well, but is a little slow since it vents back in through the nozzle (holding that button for the whole 5 gallons is a pain).
I like the fact that it has a handle on the back as well as the top.
The feds are not happy unless they are screwing up some facet of your life.

-Brian

 

[caryc]

Yes, that 5 gallons is a pain. You're holding 40 pounds up in the air while trying to work that stupid button.

 

[protoolman]

Pumps drip gas all over everything. If you can't lift a 5 gallon can get a 2.5. what could be simpler? I have bought preban cans and some adaptor nozzles so all my cans have spouts and vents one way or the other. I'm apparently not as old as some of you though, a 5 gallon can is still pretty easy at 58.

 

[caryc]

Pumps drip gas all over everything. If you can't lift a 5 gallon can get a 2.5. what could be simpler? I have bought preban cans and some adaptor nozzles so all my cans have spouts and vents one way or the other. I'm apparently not as old as some of you though, a 5 gallon can is still pretty easy at 58.

I can handle a 5 gallon, filling it at the gas station and lifting it into my van. When it comes to my tractors, lifting it over both loader frames and holding it there and pouring out of it is a no, no. Plus, I have a bad left shoulder. My primary doc sent me to an Orthopedic Surgeon, the other day. Primary doc was giving me cortisone shots which helped my shoulder a lot but not so much on the last injection. The orthopedic surgeon has me scheduled for an MRI so he can see if he can do something by arthroscopic surgery. I told him a total shoulder replacement was out of the question for me.
Protoolman get back to me in about 20 years and tell me then how you like lifting those 40 pound containers.

 

[Jeepnik]

Pumps drip gas all over everything. If you can't lift a 5 gallon can get a 2.5. what could be simpler? I have bought preban cans and some adaptor nozzles so all my cans have spouts and vents one way or the other. I'm apparently not as old as some of you though, a 5 gallon can is still pretty easy at 58.

Apparently, you haven't used the right pump for the job. It your statement were true we'd all be waist deep in fluids by now.

 

[protoolman]

I can handle a 5 gallon, filling it at the gas station and lifting it into my van. When it comes to my tractors, lifting it over both loader frames and holding it there and pouring out of it is a no, no. Plus, I have a bad left shoulder. My primary doc sent me to an Orthopedic Surgeon, the other day. Primary doc was giving me cortisone shots which helped my shoulder a lot but not so much on the last injection. The orthopedic surgeon has me scheduled for an MRI so he can see if he can do something by arthroscopic surgery. I told him a total shoulder replacement was out of the question for me.
Protoolman get back to me in about 20 years and tell me then how you like lifting those 40 pound containers.

Will likely switch to the 2.5 gallon containers if need be. In 20 years I suspect I'll be firing up a hydrogen generator or battery or something. If I start running my old Ford 9N I'll likely get a farm tank.

 

[anachronism]

I'm one of those rogue outlaws who didn't get rid of his Blitz 5G cans. I can hear the black helicopters circling overhead now

 

[protoolman]

Picture of all new converted cans I'm using and some old metal cans I've picked up at sales. I may have to quit collecting cans soon as I have 2 more 5 gals not pictured. I also hear Ca highway patrol will confiscate fuel cans from your trailer toy hauler etc. if they are not CA Air Resource Board stamped and approved. "CARB compliant "