Doug.38PR
Single-Sixer
How durable is the .44 Magnum Super blackhawk
Hot Handloads out of .44 Mag Super Blackhawk
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Quite durable. What exactly do you plan on feeding it?
Doug.38PR
Single-Sixer
Well, I'm not into reloading yet. BUT, I did have thoughts of purchasing some Buffalo Bore http://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l= ... etail&p=54 .44 Mag +P+ for it.
I've thought about jacking it up ever since I saw this scene http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuKeUAavpnU
(scumbag attorney's will love me )
Anyway, it is fun to shoot a gun. The kind of feeling you get when your bat takes the ball downtown
I've thought about jacking it up ever since I saw this scene http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuKeUAavpnU
(scumbag attorney's will love me )Anyway, it is fun to shoot a gun. The kind of feeling you get when your bat takes the ball downtown
This is from the Buffalo Bore Web site They seem to know
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Heavy .44 Magnum +P+ Ammo - 340 gr. L.F.N. - G.C. (1,478 fps/M.E. 1,649 ft. lbs.) - 20 Round Box
NEW HEAVY 44 MAGNUM +P+
This new load is designed for only certain revolvers that have the cylinder length to handle it. They are as follows. Ruger Red Hawk, Ruger Super Red Hawk, Ruger Super Blackhawk or Vaquero, Freedom Arms Model 83, Taurus Raging Bull and Dan Wesson Revolvers. Suitable rifles include T/C Encore, "modified" Marlin 1894, Winchester 1894, any rifle with a falling block action and the Handi Rifle.
What do we mean above by "modified" Marlin? Marlin (for an unknown, not well thought out reason) is using a very slow rate of twist (1/38 inches) on their 1894 chambered in 44 mag. Because of this slow rate of twist, the heaviest bullet that the factory Marlin will stabilize is about 270grs. Other firearm makers that chamber for the 44 mag all use a much faster rate of twist so that their guns will stabilize and therefore accurately shoot bullets over 300grs. Many folks today want their 44 magnums to be able to utilize the heavy 300gr. and heavier bullets - Marlin has not figured this out. If you want decent accuracy out of our new +p+ load in a Marlin, it will need to be re-barreled with a twist rate of roughly 1/20 inch. I have Dave Clay re-barrel all my Marlin 1894's with a faster twist barrel. A 44 magnum that wont accurately shoot 300gr. or heavier bullets is useless to me. Call him at 817-783-6099 for pricing.
This load brings a level of power to the 44 mag. that has never before been known.
The below velocities tell the story.
5.5 inch factory stock Red Hawk - 1401 fps
7.5 inch factory stock Red Hawk - 1478 fps
Field Proven pistol and handgun ammo. Maximum firepower ammo. Best ammunition for pistols and handguns for sale. Buffalo Bore. Strictly big bore. Strictly Business.
Attention!
You must be 18 or older to order ammunition. Ammunition must ship UPS ground. Due to Department of Transportation regulations, we cannot accept returns on Ammunition. Make sure to use the correct ammunition in
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Overview
Heavy .44 Magnum +P+ Ammo - 340 gr. L.F.N. - G.C. (1,478 fps/M.E. 1,649 ft. lbs.) - 20 Round Box
NEW HEAVY 44 MAGNUM +P+
This new load is designed for only certain revolvers that have the cylinder length to handle it. They are as follows. Ruger Red Hawk, Ruger Super Red Hawk, Ruger Super Blackhawk or Vaquero, Freedom Arms Model 83, Taurus Raging Bull and Dan Wesson Revolvers. Suitable rifles include T/C Encore, "modified" Marlin 1894, Winchester 1894, any rifle with a falling block action and the Handi Rifle.
What do we mean above by "modified" Marlin? Marlin (for an unknown, not well thought out reason) is using a very slow rate of twist (1/38 inches) on their 1894 chambered in 44 mag. Because of this slow rate of twist, the heaviest bullet that the factory Marlin will stabilize is about 270grs. Other firearm makers that chamber for the 44 mag all use a much faster rate of twist so that their guns will stabilize and therefore accurately shoot bullets over 300grs. Many folks today want their 44 magnums to be able to utilize the heavy 300gr. and heavier bullets - Marlin has not figured this out. If you want decent accuracy out of our new +p+ load in a Marlin, it will need to be re-barreled with a twist rate of roughly 1/20 inch. I have Dave Clay re-barrel all my Marlin 1894's with a faster twist barrel. A 44 magnum that wont accurately shoot 300gr. or heavier bullets is useless to me. Call him at 817-783-6099 for pricing.
This load brings a level of power to the 44 mag. that has never before been known.
The below velocities tell the story.
5.5 inch factory stock Red Hawk - 1401 fps
7.5 inch factory stock Red Hawk - 1478 fps
Field Proven pistol and handgun ammo. Maximum firepower ammo. Best ammunition for pistols and handguns for sale. Buffalo Bore. Strictly big bore. Strictly Business.
Attention!
You must be 18 or older to order ammunition. Ammunition must ship UPS ground. Due to Department of Transportation regulations, we cannot accept returns on Ammunition. Make sure to use the correct ammunition in
Stoots
Buckeye
I use the BB 305 grainers:
http://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l= ... etail&p=48
.44 Magnum Ammo - 305 gr. L.B.T.-L.F.N. (1,325 fps/M.E. 1,189 ft. lbs.)
:wink:
Buffalo Bore makes some great ammo!
http://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l= ... etail&p=48
.44 Magnum Ammo - 305 gr. L.B.T.-L.F.N. (1,325 fps/M.E. 1,189 ft. lbs.)
:wink:
Buffalo Bore makes some great ammo!
captainkirk
Blackhawk
Heavy .44 Magnum +P+ Ammo - 340 gr. L.F.N. - G.C. (1,478 fps/M.E. 1,649 ft. lbs.)
Wow, I think a cylinder of those would have the undertaker trying to figure out how to get the front sight blade out of my forehead... :shock:
captainkirk
Wow, I think a cylinder of those would have the undertaker trying to figure out how to get the front sight blade out of my forehead... :shock:
captainkirk
maxpress
Buckeye
kinda blows my reasoning for getting a .454
Bucks Owin
Hunter
"Like A Rock"!!!....(unlike Chevy trucks) :lol:Doug.38PR":3cc5x2fq said:
Bucks Owin
Hunter
I bet pressures aren't SAAMI either! :shock: I wouldn't fire those Roman candles in anything BUT a SBH!! (or FA/BFR) IMO, a 340 gr is too big in 43 cal, "need a bigger hammer" as Linebaugh says... :wink:captainkirk":zvkur5yh said:
yankee7809
Single-Sixer
captainkirk[/quote] I bet pressures aren't SAAMI either! :shock: I wouldn't fire those Roman candles in anything BUT a SBH!! (or FA/BFR) IMO, a 340 gr is too big in 43 cal, "need a bigger hammer" as Linebaugh says... :wink:[/quote]
+1 What you said... That's some hammer of a load whether it can actually live completely up to it's ballistics or not. It has to be running some unreal pressure.
+1 What you said... That's some hammer of a load whether it can actually live completely up to it's ballistics or not. It has to be running some unreal pressure.
tek4260
Buckeye
Just keep the ratchet and the bushing well oiled or greased. Several of those loads will leave imprints of the ratchet at the rear of the cylinder window.
AzRebel
Single-Sixer
Doug.38PR":29i4kj4z said:Well, I'm not into reloading yet. BUT, I did have thoughts of purchasing some Buffalo Bore http://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l= ... etail&p=54 .44 Mag +P+ for it.
I've thought about jacking it up ever since I saw this scene http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuKeUAavpnU
Anyway, it is fun to shoot a gun. The kind of feeling you get when your bat takes the ball downtown
Compadre, I don't know how serious your post is, but take a word of advice...please.
If you truly have no experience in handloading, DO NOT start out by "jacking it up". You don't have the experience to realize what you're doing, and the consequences can truly be catestrophic.
I'm not saying that it can't be done in certain firearms, and done with relative safety, but it's not a good place to start your handloading goals.
Shooting a gun IS fun; having one blow up in your hand IS NOT fun. No matter how strong they are, they all have their limit. You might get away with shooting several hundred rounds of your special "hot loads" with nary a hitch, and suddenly your gun goes off like a grenade.
Start at the basics, and learn to recognize danger signs. Learn to recognize and realize the potential of your firearm, and the potential consequences of what your doing before you go to the extremes.
'Cause anyone I cared about or shot with who decided to go pick up some reloading equipment with thoughts of "jacking it up" would worry the heII out of me.
Daryl
AzRebel":3jahm8ke said:Doug.38PR":3jahm8ke said:Well, I'm not into reloading yet. BUT, I did have thoughts of purchasing some Buffalo Bore http://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l= ... etail&p=54 .44 Mag +P+ for it.
I've thought about jacking it up ever since I saw this scene http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuKeUAavpnU
Anyway, it is fun to shoot a gun. The kind of feeling you get when your bat takes the ball downtown
Compadre, I don't know how serious your post is, but take a word of advice...please.
If you truly have no experience in handloading, DO NOT start out by "jacking it up". You don't have the experience to realize what you're doing, and the consequences can truly be catestrophic.
I'm not saying that it can't be done in certain firearms, and done with relative safety, but it's not a good place to start your handloading goals.
Shooting a gun IS fun; having one blow up in your hand IS NOT fun. No matter how strong they are, they all have their limit. You might get away with shooting several hundred rounds of your special "hot loads" with nary a hitch, and suddenly your gun goes off like a grenade.
Start at the basics, and learn to recognize danger signs. Learn to recognize and realize the potential of your firearm, and the potential consequences of what your doing before you go to the extremes.
'Cause anyone I cared about or shot with who decided to go pick up some reloading equipment with thoughts of "jacking it up" would worry the heII out of me.
Daryl
DITTO! Make that Double DITTO!
Dave
yankee7809":vn13y1wy said:
That's my way of thinking on it. I run my 454 (only when I'm in Alaska fishing around BIG bears) with 335 grain WLNGC bullets between 1430 and 1500 fps. Those loads are running 50,000+ psi.
Now take a 44 mag, smaller case, a little heavier slug and run it 1400+ fps? I don't care what great non-cannister powder you have... the pressure has got to be up there.
I love BB ammo. But I wouldn't fire the +P+ 44 mag stuff except in a 5-shot gun put together by a big name gunsmith, ie, Linebaugh, Bowen, Harton, Gallagher, Clements, Reeder, etc.
As mentioned above, I think a "bigger hammer" is on the money here.
yankee7809
Single-Sixer
I love the .44 Magnum. It's my favorite handgun/round. But if it were to be incapable of doing the job, at Normal operating pressures, what ever that job was.. I have a no.3 45-70 single shot that might.. And if THAT didn't get it I'll throw the gun at whatever the intended target was and run!
Bucks Owin":19zwxfx8 said:
I have the bigger hammer. .500 Linebaugh on a Ruger Bisley built for me by John about 1996 or so, 400gr hardcast @ 1400 fps. Front sight just tapped my forehead. Quit for the day. Or my 465 grain LFN's @ 1315 fps are pretty decent loads also, but not hot. Most folks at the outdoor range seem to know when I'm there; even the ones in the clubhouse.
Fun, but not for the faint at heart.Sonnytoo
Bucks Owin
Hunter
.500 Linebaugh is a SLEDGEhammer! :wink: I'd like a sledgehammer too, but in .500 WE "just because".....
tek4260
Buckeye
I'd like to see what BB's would do across my chrony. Doubt they are within 150fps of what they claim....
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