I bought one with the 20" barrel around 2002. My kids shot it alot with russian ammo not much recoil. Russian ammo used to be $2.50 a box of twenty, cheap, I saw some last week for $5.49 still kind of cheap, 2" to 3" pattern with Russian at 100 yds. A little smaller pattern with Winchester ammo. I love it, fun to shoot. Packed it on a goat hunt in 2003 because it was light, brought home a nice billy.