I just had two sets of grips made by Carl in the American Holly. One set of xr3 for my old .44 flattop and a set of the same type of wood for my new Lipsey .44 special flattop. Both sets of grips are top notch quality and fit like a glove. They almost look like ivory as the wood grain is almost invisible. The next time I need some grips, Carl will get my order....just wish he also worked in stag and bone.......