drmajor
Bearcat
My GP100 (357) and the double action is pretty heavy. Single is OK..
What spring mainly effects the double action..
What spring mainly effects the double action..
GP100 Trigger
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The hammer spring. That said, you can get replacement springs from Wolffs that have both the hammer and trigger return springs included so you can pick and choose what combination you want to give you a lighter pull and reliable ignition.
I do have a set for sale for the GP100 (9, 10, 12 lb hammer spring, 8, 10 lb trigger return spring, new in package) PM me if interested.
I do have a set for sale for the GP100 (9, 10, 12 lb hammer spring, 8, 10 lb trigger return spring, new in package) PM me if interested.
drmajor
Bearcat
It does get smoother the more it's shot...However, last week I played with a S&W 50 cal that a great trigger... lust...
So, it looks like a 10-12# trigger spring and parts smoothing is in order..
So, it looks like a 10-12# trigger spring and parts smoothing is in order..
S&W's has/had a reputation for probably the smoothest out-of-the-box trigger but I've been hearing a lot more comments from people that they aren't as good as they used to be, and this is from long time S&W owners.
You can, with a little work and patience make a GP100 a nice smooth trigger. I built a GP100 into a PPC gun when the Model 10 was the most used base to build PPC revolvers. I took a lot of ribbing at matches about shooting a Ruger UNTIL I let a shooter from the Maryland State Police Gold team (these were the guys everyone was out to beat in the northeast) shoot it. He could not believe how it shot and how well the trigger was. I ended up building about 6 GP's for people that year. Then the next year the USAF sent me to Egypt to be part of a special team to help build/open/operate a new F-16 base and train the Egyptian Air Force so that ended my PPC participation/gun building for a while.
While you don't have to replace the trigger return spring in most GP's, when you are building a competition gun, you want as light and smooth a trigger pull as possible with reliable ignition and although changing the trigger return spring doesn't affect the ignition, it does affect, in a small amount, the overall lightness of the trigger pull.
Smoothness will come over time but you can speed up the process with CAREFUL stoning and polishing of the trigger and hammer bearing surfaces as well a smoothing out any burrs on the hammer strut (where it mates with the hammer) as well as smoothing the sides of the trigger if it has any burrs. Adding trigger and hammer shims may also be needed but I've never had a GP100 that has needed them (guess I was lucky).
You can, with a little work and patience make a GP100 a nice smooth trigger. I built a GP100 into a PPC gun when the Model 10 was the most used base to build PPC revolvers. I took a lot of ribbing at matches about shooting a Ruger UNTIL I let a shooter from the Maryland State Police Gold team (these were the guys everyone was out to beat in the northeast) shoot it. He could not believe how it shot and how well the trigger was. I ended up building about 6 GP's for people that year. Then the next year the USAF sent me to Egypt to be part of a special team to help build/open/operate a new F-16 base and train the Egyptian Air Force so that ended my PPC participation/gun building for a while.
While you don't have to replace the trigger return spring in most GP's, when you are building a competition gun, you want as light and smooth a trigger pull as possible with reliable ignition and although changing the trigger return spring doesn't affect the ignition, it does affect, in a small amount, the overall lightness of the trigger pull.
Smoothness will come over time but you can speed up the process with CAREFUL stoning and polishing of the trigger and hammer bearing surfaces as well a smoothing out any burrs on the hammer strut (where it mates with the hammer) as well as smoothing the sides of the trigger if it has any burrs. Adding trigger and hammer shims may also be needed but I've never had a GP100 that has needed them (guess I was lucky).
I think I'd shoot it a bunch first to get the internals smoothed out. Then get the Wolff kit and experiment to see which combo of springs you like.
My experience is that it's never going to be the same as a good Smith & Wesson trigger, but it will still end up being pretty darn good.
My experience is that it's never going to be the same as a good Smith & Wesson trigger, but it will still end up being pretty darn good.
22/45 Fan
Hunter
I have installed the Wolff spring kit in my 4.2" GP. I experimented first using the 12# hammer spring (14# is standard) and the 8# trigger return spring (factory is 12#). The trigger pull improved a bit and functioning was 100%. Then I installed the 10# hammer spring and that improved the trigger pull a bit more and functioning remains 100%. I decided not to press my luck and try the 9# spring so I stopped there.
BTW, the 8# trigger return spring was the only one I used. The included option was a 10# that was never tried.
BTW, the 8# trigger return spring was the only one I used. The included option was a 10# that was never tried.
drmajor
Bearcat
I plan to use the gun as a hunting backup (deer & hogs). I love a 2-3# trigger, but probably not in that scenario. If a hog decides to chase me- I want him down....now.
FYI- I keep it loaded, when hunting, with 180gr Buffalo Bore. Sadly, not tested yet.
FYI- I keep it loaded, when hunting, with 180gr Buffalo Bore. Sadly, not tested yet.
Jimbo357mag
Hawkeye
After breaking in the gun and smoothing up the internals a little, the Wolf spring kit will tune the gun. I went with the next lighter mainspring and the next lighter trigger return spring. The gun runs perfect now and never a misfire. Your results may vary. 
A "good" trigger is a matter of opinion, the trigger on my Match Champion is as smooth as silk an almost too light for my liking. Tune it to your taste, let your finger make the decision, not the scale. I've said over and over here that my shooting buddy is a S&W Performance Center junkie and I hate the triggers on every one of his revolvers, to me they have absolutely no feel.
Definitely. I like ~2# no creep triggers (Single Action mode). That is to light for some shooters. When I first started shooting, it didn't seem to matter much.... Now after many years, I know what I like on my revolvers.... and nothing else will do.
ceadermtnboy
Blackhawk
I just picked up a new blue 4 inch barrel .357. This is the fourth one I have owned and by far the nicest trigger yet. Pulls at 11 lbs DA and 4 lbs SA with no creep and zero over travel. Also no end shake or side to side movement period and it shoots to POA.
drmajor
Bearcat
Mine is clean, just heavy on double action...So, and little cleanup and springs should make for a funner gun.
