GM driverless cars

[exavid]

So GM is going to make a bunch of driverless cars. No pedals, no steering wheel. So how do you get this thing into your garage? What happens when there's ice on the road? Can the thing see black ice? It's relatively easy to automate ships and aircract, in fact they pretty much are already but if you live back in the puckerbrush will this car know what to do? Still seems like a bad idea to me.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-carefully-review-gm-request-autonomous-car-chao-001531700.html

 

[Mobuck]

Designed to satisfy the "sheeple" who move in herds on marked pathways.

 

[rob-c]

So GM is going to make a bunch of driverless cars. No pedals, no steering wheel. So how do you get this thing into your garage? What happens when there's ice on the road? Can the thing see black ice? It's relatively easy to automate ships and aircract, in fact they pretty much are already but if you live back in the puckerbrush will this car know what to do? Still seems like a bad idea to me.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-carefully-review-gm-request-autonomous-car-chao-001531700.html

^^^ agree 100% ^^^

 

[GunnyGene]

So GM is going to make a bunch of driverless cars. No pedals, no steering wheel. So how do you get this thing into your garage? What happens when there's ice on the road? Can the thing see black ice? It's relatively easy to automate ships and aircract, in fact they pretty much are already but if you live back in the puckerbrush will this car know what to do? Still seems like a bad idea to me.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-carefully-review-gm-request-autonomous-car-chao-001531700.html

Yeah, and what if you need to push some liberal protestors out of the way on the interstate? Does the thing have an Attack command? :roll:

 

[Captain America]

These cars will be 100% computer controlled...what could go wrong? :wink:

 

[Selena]

Years ago when farm machinery first started being steered by GPS, my grandfather kind of shook his head at the salesman and ask if the computer was program to allow for Murphy. (Referring of course to Murphy's Law.) The salesman quickly closed his brochures and put them back in his little briefcase. Computers are wonderful instruments, but they will never replace the judgment and skill of an experienced operator.

However the very idea has to beg the question… Would a drunk commanding the computer still be considered a drunk driver? If two computer controlled cars found themselves in a situation outside their programming who would be insurance company find at fault? And last but not least, if a certain neighbor was fleeing an angry husband in a computer controlled car and was caught when the computer stopped for a stop sign… Would the automaker be held responsible for his hospital bills? Should these become common, I can see a lot of lawyers making a great deal of money off of a number of scenarios. The consumer – not so much.

 

[pisgah]

HAL 9000: "I know I've made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission. And I want to help you."

2001: A Space Odyssey

Just a few years late, and on earth...

 

[GunnyGene]

These are just another way to control people. Another velvet chain to restrict your freedom disguised as a "public safety" improvement. It's still a chain. :evil: :evil:

 

[Fox Mike]

These cars will be 100% computer controlled...what could go wrong? :wink:

A Windows design, with updates arriving whenever you don't want the computer to reboot; like at 60 mph on the Interstate. :shock: :shock:

 

[graygun]

They can drive you where you may not want to go.

 

[contender]

I know I would not buy one. Way too many variables on the roads to allow a machine to make decisions for me.

 

[Jimbo357mag]

Technology advances. Nobody is going to be forced to buy one of those cars so what is the complaint. They will have a place, Taxis.

 

[vito]

As a motorcyclist one of my concerns is whether or not these vehicles will be able to recognize motorcycles and not just run into or over them.

I also have concerns about the programming of these vehicles regarding evasive maneuvers. If an automated car is faced with an unavoidable crash, how will it choose to go? Lets say it cannot stop in time and must either hit another vehicle head on, or swerve to the shoulder and certainly kill a pedestrian. By slowing as much as possible, the head on collision might not cause any fatality, but hitting the pedestrian almost certainly would. Yet the programming might just see the pedestrian as a smaller object and therefore the preferred item to crash into. When would it be programmed to hit an object rather than risk swerving off the road at high speed, such as when a deer jumps out in front of the vehicle? Personally I am not ready to trust such vehicles when a failure in their systems could be so serious in its consequences.

Even some cars on the road today are capable of semi-autonomous driving. When the car no longer can "see" the lane markings it warns the driver to resume control. How long will it be before drivers routinely become so trusting of the automation that when told to take control they will be unable to react quickly enough to do so? I think we are entering a very dangerous world with this type of automation.

 

[Fox Mike]

Technology advances. Nobody is going to be forced to buy one of those cars so what is the complaint. They will have a place, Taxis.

You obviously have never been in a cab in Boston. Hands are needed on the reins in that town, all the time. :shock:

 

[powder smoke]

I always prefer to drive rather than be driven, sometimes I take the long way home. ps

 

[Captain America]

Technology advances. Nobody is going to be forced to buy one of those cars so what is the complaint. They will have a place, Taxis.

I'm sure when the day comes that the technology exists we will have some autonomous cars on the road. Right now this is just free advertising for the companies that are touting this new technology. Remember a few years ago when Amazon said we will all be getting our orders via drone...well...ain't gonna happen anytime soon but Amazon got a couple of billion dollars worth of free advertising from it. I use technology, Sirius cuts out around tall buildings, traffic maps are always a few minutes behind with changing road conditions, self driving cars need input within milliseconds and the grid just isn't set up to do that. In addition to that, the car itself would need to have dozens(or hundreds) of additional sensors for safety reasons. You can hear a wheel bearing that's bad, but a temperature or knock sensor would have to be on each bearing to sense that along with countless other problems. Could you imagine your car being unusable because a wheel bearing might fail in six months, or if a tail light burned out?

 

[pisgah]

Technology advances. Nobody is going to be forced to buy one of those cars so what is the complaint.

Well, not yet. But England and, I believe, France have recently passed laws that ban internal combustion-powered cars within a few years, so ... what is the complaint? :wink:

 

[Fox Mike]

Technology advances. Nobody is going to be forced to buy one of those cars so what is the complaint.

Well, not yet. But England and, I believe, France have recently passed laws that ban internal combustion-powered cars within a few years, so ... what is the complaint? :wink:

Even electric cars still had steering wheels last time I checked.

 

[pisgah]

Technology advances. Nobody is going to be forced to buy one of those cars so what is the complaint.

Well, not yet. But England and, I believe, France have recently passed laws that ban internal combustion-powered cars within a few years, so ... what is the complaint? :wink:

Even electric cars still had steering wheels last time I checked.

Well, so far, but... :lol: :lol:

 

[Colonialgirl]

These cars will be 100% computer controlled...what could go wrong? :wink:

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